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Overbom

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sinophilia said:
but to say that half of China's rural children are so stunted they have lower average IQs than any developed natio
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She is definetely overhyping this. IMO the number given is hugely ovestimated

Plus even if there is still a small number affected there are various ways to mitigate the problem. Such as shifting these people to manual labour/factories or service-industry jobs with low requirement for education and critical thinking. You dont need to be a genius to do labour work so in this way the state is not damaged by this.

Finally, China not having a Democratic system also means that these low-IQ individuals cannot affect policy. Contrast that with India, and you see how bad things go with an uneducated/low-IQ population given the right to vote for candidates and policies.

To sum up, her whole argument is invalid, and even if it was true, China has inherent ways to mitigate the problem. PR at best
 
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According to data from World bank, only 3% of Chinese people are under nourished. This is comparable to other developed countries.
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As for malnourishment, it is only more prevalent in areas with abject poverty. With abject poverty being overcome in China, malnourishment is really not a big deal.
 
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And just think someone here actually said over at the U.K. military thread that "Great" Britain has got deep pockets, and can afford to have the "2nd biggest carrier" force in the world, and sail around China for freedom of navigation

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So UK had 11% YoY decline for its exports to Germany, and it also had German imports to UK increase by 2.6% YoY..
So thats a double-whammy for a trade deficit.

Brexit, another British masterstroke
 
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I know Forbes has become garbage drivel only slightly better than the Daily Mail but I had to post this. Literally every single 'fact' wrong, then even stoops as low as calling Chinese people low IQ.



I was shocked by this statement. Is there any proof to this? Sounds ridiculous to believe so many kids are stunted to this level of significance that they are almost at India's level. I looked at the authors name assuming it must be Gordon Chang, noticed her last name is Yang and thought oh well just another self-hating Chinese but....

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Despicable. Can you imagine some White women writing about stunted low-IQ Black or Indian children? They would be cancelled and lynched.
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Rural China and Urban China are two different worlds. Chinese government runs a huge school lunch program costing well over 2 billion USD a year to combat the rural children undernourishment problem. However there are persistent problems of corruption/incompetence resulting in low quality food or unbalanced diet. China tried instead making direct money transfer to rural families, but many families refused to spend the money on better food for their children, so the direct deposit approach failed. The biggest problem is that a lot of older generation rural folks don't understand the concept of undernourishment. They think their grandchildren are eat well with just noodles and a bit of vegetable - it's perhaps a lot better than what they and their children ate as they were young but still very unbalanced. Also schooling begins at 6 the most important years for a baby's development are the first three years.

It's a very tough problem and does need more attention and investments.
 
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OppositeDay said:
Rural China and Urban China are two different worlds. Chinese government runs a huge school lunch program costing well over 2 billion USD a year to combat the rural children undernourishment problem. However there are persistent problems of corruption/incompetence resulting in low quality food or unbalanced diet. China tried instead making direct money transfer to rural families, but many families refused to spend the money on better food for their children, so the direct deposit approach failed. The biggest problem is that a lot of older generation rural folks don't understand the concept of undernourishment. They think their grandchildren are eat well with just noodles and a bit of vegetable - it's perhaps a lot better than what they and their children ate as they were young but still very unbalanced. Also schooling begins at 6 the most important years for a baby's development are the first three years.

It's a very tough problem and does need more attention and investments.
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My father grew up with just rice and some vegetables, as did most kids of his generation in non-urban areas. They even went through the famine years, and theirs is the generation that carried China through the economic miracle of the 90's and 2000's.
 
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OppositeDay said:
Rural China and Urban China are two different worlds. Chinese government runs a huge school lunch program costing well over 2 billion USD a year to combat the rural children undernourishment problem. However there are persistent problems of corruption/incompetence resulting in low quality food or unbalanced diet. China tried instead making direct money transfer to rural families, but many families refused to spend the money on better food for their children, so the direct deposit approach failed. The biggest problem is that a lot of older generation rural folks don't understand the concept of undernourishment. They think their grandchildren are eat well with just noodles and a bit of vegetable - it's perhaps a lot better than what they and their children ate as they were young but still very unbalanced. Also schooling begins at 6 the most important years for a baby's development are the first three years.

It's a very tough problem and does need more attention and investments.
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About the Rural and Urban divide in China I heard on podcasts that investors actually say that the next China will be rural China not India or an ASEAN country, because there is still so much work to be done.
 
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