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tokenanalyst

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This doesn't mean that China's EUV efforts should be slowed down at all. China must explore all feasible avenues in future chipmaking.
I agree and the Chinese are not resting on their laurels in EUV and eventually it will reach, how soon they do it will depend on the pressure they receive from the United States. The first prototype in 2024-2025? who knows.

They are even investing in other types of lithography that western analysts think they don't have like NanoImprimt lithography.

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Isn't that article assuming that Yangtze River Storage will just hand over their IP to Huawei? I'm pretty sure stacking 3D with Nand is not the same as stacking logic, cache and memory those are probably orders of magnitude more complex.
YMTC uses a proprietary stacking technology with direct wafer bonding but stacking using through silicon vias in 3D packages is perfectly fine and can be designed for.
 

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Is that synchrotron the facility being referred to at the end of this article?
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Beijing has an old working synchrotron, Beijing Synchrotron Radiation Facility (BSRF). It too can generate soft X-ray . And it can be use for research and development in X-ray lithography. But it has only 14 beam line and 14 experimental station

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The new Beijing synchrotron , High Energy Photon Source (HEPS) , is under construction and should be completed in 2025. Like BSRF, it can also be use for research and development in X-ray lithography. It will have 60 - 70 beam lines and 90 experimental stations.

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China also has a large synchrotron facility in Shanghai.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Beijing has an old working synchrotron, Beijing Synchrotron Radiation Facility (BSRF). It too can generate soft X-ray . And it can be use for research and development in X-ray lithography. But it has only 14 beam line and 14 experimental station

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The new Beijing synchrotron , High Energy Photon Source (HEPS) , is under construction and should be completed in 2025. Like BSRF, it can also be use for research and development in X-ray lithography. It will have 60 - 70 beam lines and 90 experimental stations.

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China also has a large synchrotron facility in Shanghai.
Do you know if HEPS will be used to research steady-state microbunching or even use it industrially?
 

coolieno99

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Do you know if HEPS will be used to research steady-state microbunching or even use it industrially?
Theoretically, the Steady State Micro Bunching technology can also be implemented on the old Beijing synchrotron.
As far as industrial application is concerned, years ago I read an article about the Japanese trying to build a "portable synchrotron" to be use as a Soft X-ray light source for lithography tool. But I think they dropped the idea.

Shanghai is also experimenting with Soft X-ray, but for different purposes.
Shanghai - XFEL Beamline Project and Shanghai Soft X-ray Free Electron Laser Facility

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This doesn't mean that China's EUV efforts should be slowed down at all. China must explore all feasible avenues in future chipmaking.

China has to maximize effort to close the gap with west for the EUV Litography, and 3 generation semiconductor tech simultaneously, because I believe Taiwan, Korea, and US are also pursuing 3D stacking too; if they apply this 3D stacking as well with 3nm then again they could keep the gap with China.
 

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China has to maximize effort to close the gap with west for the EUV Litography, and 3 generation semiconductor tech simultaneously, because I believe Taiwan, Korea, and US are also pursuing 3D stacking too; if they apply this 3D stacking as well with 3nm then again they could keep the gap with China.
@antonius123 bro TW, SK and the US all had EUVL, why would they choose another processes when they had the tool available? Stifling China will only spur it to innovate more and 3D stacking is one of them.
 

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China has to maximize effort to close the gap with west for the EUV Litography, and 3 generation semiconductor tech simultaneously, because I believe Taiwan, Korea, and US are also pursuing 3D stacking too; if they apply this 3D stacking as well with 3nm then again they could keep the gap with China.
There are major issues with 3D stacking that need to be resolved mostly about thermal issues, but there is no incentive for unsanctioned companies to solve it because they could just keep adding transistors to a single die until they hit the limit, while Huawei is under great pressure to innovate to survive sanctions. So Huawei investing in 3D stacking makes sense, but not so much for other companies.
 
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