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Hello Republican congress. Bye Democrats and they can also kiss their Presidential aspirations or reelection goodbye if this mess is going to be a repeated event.
He's repeatedly gone on television saying things on the ground were fine when they clearly weren't.
From what we've seen in the past few days - HKIA seems to be a scrum with people pushing each other metres away from US forces.
Afghanistan is one of the poorest countries in the world, there will be a limitless number of people trying to get on those planes whether they worked with US forces or not.
He decided to delay the withdrawal, and did nothing with the extra time it bought. A sensible thing to do would be to have a list of US nationals in Afghanistan, then list of people the US was prepared to take with an appropriate evacuation plan.
Nothing of the sort was done until it was too late. Even up to a few days ago the Americans were saying they didn't know how many of their nationals were still in the country.
An unconventional analysis on how things evolve in Afghanistan... Tom Luongo 2021.08.24
With the collapse of Afghanistan and the clear inability of Joe Biden to handle the situation the clock is winding down quickly on The Davos Crowd to figure out how to keep things from going completely off the rails.
The media and most of D.C. has turned on Biden in a complete 180, just like they did on the COVID-9/11 lab leak theory once it became useful for Davos to do so and Dr. Fauci was caught by Rand Paul red handed lying to Congress.
Now, I believe strongly that the mess in Kabul was planned chaos.
Biden has been set up to take the blame for this. He’s neither prepared for it nor even capable of processing the speed at which this is happening. It’s almost like he’s as lost…
Have you noticed the desperate bleats from people like Tony Blair and EU Foreign Minister Josef Borrell about the loss of Afghanistan?
So their turning on him through the media reveals clearly the rules of the game have changed again.
At the same time, was correct in his assessment that Kamala Harris is also being sidelined because she’s not in Afghanistan or at least overseas coordinating with these foreign allies to work through the situation and get the Americans trapped there out.
We are in the early moments of stage-managing Biden’s exit speech. But since we’ve also entered into a new game, the old rules don’t necessarily apply.
The big question now is, what happens next?
The author foresees that Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen may be the dark horse for the top job within the next six months, just like Mario Draghi was appointed in Italy. Time will tell
If Biden doesn't resign the US is finished as a democracy, zero accountability. It's already starting to look like a dictatorship of two parties. Each with their own media and die hard supporters.
With 12 US soldiers now dead this will further fuel major opposition against him. Remember, the issue is that he said that everything was proceeding smoothly and that US' national interest in Afghanistan was achieved, removing the terrorim threat there.
With both of his high-profile promises broken in pieces in just a few days, Biden will now come under fire from multiple angles in the political spectrum. Maybe even by the Democrats?
With both of his high-profile promises broken in pieces in just a few days, Biden will now come under fire from multiple angles in the political spectrum. Maybe even by the Democrats?
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Wow, 12 deaths is huge, considering there was a total of 9 deaths in the entire year of 2020.
John Pilger: The Great Game of smashing countries (25 AUG 2021)
As a tsunami of crocodile tears engulfs Western politicians, history is suppressed. More than a generation ago, Afghanistan won its freedom, which the United States, Britain and their “allies” destroyed.
In 1978, a liberation movement led by the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) overthrew the dictatorship of Mohammad Daud, the cousin of King Zahir Shar. It was an immensely popular revolution that took the British and Americans by surprise.
Foreign journalists in Kabul, reported the New York Times, were surprised to find that “nearly every Afghan they interviewed said [they were] delighted with the coup.” The Wall Street Journal reported that “150,000 persons… marched to honour the new flag… the participants appeared genuinely enthusiastic.”
The Washington Post reported that “Afghan loyalty to the government can scarcely be questioned.” Secular, modernist and, to a considerable degree, socialist, the government declared a programme of visionary reforms that included equal rights for women and minorities. Political prisoners were freed and police files publicly burned.
Under the monarchy, life expectancy was 35; one in three children died in infancy. Some 90% of the population was illiterate. The new government introduced free medical care. A mass literacy campaign was launched.
For women, the gains had no precedent; by the late 1980s, half the university students were women, and women made up 40% of Afghanistan’s doctors, 70% of its teachers and 30% of its civil servants.
For the United States, the problem with the PDPA government was that it was supported by the Soviet Union. Yet it was never the “puppet” derided in the West, neither was the coup against the monarchy “Soviet backed,” as the American and British press claimed at the time.
President Jimmy Carter’s secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, later wrote in his memoirs: “We had no evidence of any Soviet complicity in the coup.”
In the same administration was Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s national security adviser, a Polish émigré and fanatical anti-communist and moral extremist whose enduring influence on American presidents expired only with his death in 2017.
On July 3, 1979, unknown to the American people and Congress, Carter authorised a $500 million “covert action” programme to overthrow Afghanistan’s first secular, progressive government. This was code-named by the CIA Operation Cyclone.
The $500 million bought, bribed and armed a group of tribal and religious zealots known as the Mujahedin. In his semi-official history, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward wrote that the CIA spent $70 million on bribes alone. [The era of the well organized & funded Muslim radicalization / extremism / jihadism started from this time onwards.]
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John Pilger’s 2003 film, ‘BREAKING THE SILENCE’, is available to view at
As a tsunami of crocodile tears engulfs Western politicians, history is suppressed. More than a generation ago, Afghanistan won its freedom, which the United States, Britain and their “allies” destroyed.
In 1978, a liberation movement led by the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) overthrew the dictatorship of Mohammad Daud, the cousin of King Zahir Shar. It was an immensely popular revolution that took the British and Americans by surprise.
Foreign journalists in Kabul, reported the New York Times, were surprised to find that “nearly every Afghan they interviewed said [they were] delighted with the coup.” The Wall Street Journal reported that “150,000 persons… marched to honour the new flag… the participants appeared genuinely enthusiastic.”
The Washington Post reported that “Afghan loyalty to the government can scarcely be questioned.” Secular, modernist and, to a considerable degree, socialist, the government declared a programme of visionary reforms that included equal rights for women and minorities. Political prisoners were freed and police files publicly burned.
Under the monarchy, life expectancy was 35; one in three children died in infancy. Some 90% of the population was illiterate. The new government introduced free medical care. A mass literacy campaign was launched.
For women, the gains had no precedent; by the late 1980s, half the university students were women, and women made up 40% of Afghanistan’s doctors, 70% of its teachers and 30% of its civil servants.
For the United States, the problem with the PDPA government was that it was supported by the Soviet Union. Yet it was never the “puppet” derided in the West, neither was the coup against the monarchy “Soviet backed,” as the American and British press claimed at the time.
President Jimmy Carter’s secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, later wrote in his memoirs: “We had no evidence of any Soviet complicity in the coup.”
In the same administration was Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s national security adviser, a Polish émigré and fanatical anti-communist and moral extremist whose enduring influence on American presidents expired only with his death in 2017.
On July 3, 1979, unknown to the American people and Congress, Carter authorised a $500 million “covert action” programme to overthrow Afghanistan’s first secular, progressive government. This was code-named by the CIA Operation Cyclone.
The $500 million bought, bribed and armed a group of tribal and religious zealots known as the Mujahedin. In his semi-official history, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward wrote that the CIA spent $70 million on bribes alone. [The era of the well organized & funded Muslim radicalization / extremism / jihadism started from this time onwards.]
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John Pilger’s 2003 film, ‘BREAKING THE SILENCE’, is available to view at
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Agreed. I still blame his National Sec Advisor Jake Sullivan, along with Blinken and Austin Powers for this incompetent withdrawal.
The problem with American foreign policy is their penchant for moralizing their policy thereby excusing just about every excess and abuse not to mention the failures of said plan years later that people of the world collectively have been negatively impacted and not just the American people.