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Petrolicious88

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I agree with what plawolf has said. The more of the hope was the whole region destabilizing because of the fall of Afghanistan. Central Asia destabilizes which severely undermines the BRI and destroy the chances of Iran becoming more economically integrated with China. Which can still happen in some ways if there is a massive refugee crisis that spills over into neighboring countries.
It’s always the events that are impossible to predict that gets you. Who could have predicted that the Afghan army would basically surrender without a fight.

I’m sure the US hoped that civil war would break out in Afghanistan. There would never be peace for decades, and no chance of BRI through Afghanistan.

but it looks like the Taliban won. And as horrible as that sounds, there might, just might be peace at the end of all this. And peace is good for investments. And good for business.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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This woman is garbage and I'm surprised she hasn't been cancelled yet.

She posts 'news' that is more obviously fake than even anything that Trump has said.


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How is she not being called out for this low-class tier type of tabloid BS? And she's an award-winning journalist LOL. She's done this many times too.
She went batshit crazy after getting the terrorist experience. The lady has gone full retard
 

AssassinsMace

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Sigh ... won't be surprised at all if MSM then picks up on this and runs it as "fact". Much like the hysteria over the fake news that Russia was offering bounties on US troops.
Well remember when the US first went into Afghanistan they found a cache of Chinese weapons and ammunition in Taliban hideouts and said China was helping terrorists. It turns out they were leftovers from back when the Soviets were in Afghanistan that the US had bought from China so that the Soviets couldn't directly point the finger at the US. The US is so FUBAR.
 

siegecrossbow

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Sigh ... won't be surprised at all if MSM then picks up on this and runs it as "fact". Much like the hysteria over the fake news that Russia was offering bounties on US troops.

This sort of fake news is self-defeating. The Afghan withdrawal debacle is embarrassing enough by itself without the Chinese element.
 

Temstar

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Apparently scenes from Kabul overnight. Taliban soldiers decided to camp on the side of the road for the night instead of barging into people's houses. This exact same thing happened in Shanghai in 1949.

Given this and all the other Chinese Civil War parallel over the last two weeks I strongly suspect the delegation went home with a few copies of the red book.

By the way I looked up the timeline of how it went:
29/07/2021 - Taliban delegation arrives in Tianjin
30/07/2021 - MFA issues warning for all Chinese citizens to leave Afghanistan
01/08/2021 - Taliban launched their nation-wide offensive
15/08/2021 - Taliban captures Kabul
 

Strangelove

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Collapse of Afghan government sets off evacuation scramble but Beijing and Moscow have no current plans to remove staff
Chinese embassy warns its nationals to stay indoors, take safety precautions and keep a close watch on the situation

Sarah Zheng

Published: 11:03am, 16 Aug, 2021
Updated: 11:54am, 16 Aug, 2021

As the US and its allies scrambled to evacuate their staff from Afghanistan, China has asked the “various factions” in the country to ensure the safety of its citizens and interests.

The Chinese embassy in Kabul signalled on Sunday that it had been contact with the Taliban and would be staying put as the insurgent forces neared a complete takeover of the country. “The Chinese embassy has requested various factions in Afghanistan to ensure the safety of Chinese nations, Chinese institutions and Chinese interests,” it said.

“The embassy will take further steps to remind Chinese nationals to closely follow the security situation, increase safety precautions and to refrain from going outside.” Russia’s embassy has also said it had no plans to evacuate.

‘Game over’: US lowers flag at Kabul embassy as Taliban seize power
16 Aug 2021

A Taliban spokesman said it had assured “all embassies, diplomatic centres, institutions, places and foreign nationals” in Kabul that they would remain safe, as its sweeping and rapid advances on Sunday left the capital city in disarray.

By Monday, Afghanistan’s President Ashraf Ghani had left the country, marking the stunning collapse of the army and government after a costly, 20-year US military campaign to support them, and the return of Taliban rule.

The militant group said it would work towards transitioning the country under an “open, inclusive Islamic government”, raising concerns that advances for democracy as well as for Afghan women and minorities in the past two decades will be lost.

Why Afghanistan matters to China as US withdraws from war-torn country

A joint statement on Monday from more than 65 countries – including the US, Britain, Germany, Japan, Australia, the European Union, Niger, Fiji, Uganda and others, but not China or Russia – called on “all parties to respect and facilitate the safe and orderly departure of foreign nationals and Afghans who wish to leave the country”.

“Those in positions of power and authority across Afghanistan bear responsibility – and accountability – for the protection of human life and property, and for the immediate restoration of security and civil order” it said. “Afghans and international citizens who wish to depart must be allowed to do so; roads, airports and border crossing must remain open, and calm must be maintained.”

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres on Monday urged the Taliban and others to “exercise utmost restraint to protect lives” and ensure humanitarian needs are met.

‘Clearly botched’: Biden White House under assault on Afghanistan drawdown
16 Aug 2021

“Conflict in Afghanistan is forcing hundreds of thousands to flee amid reports of serious human rights violations,” he said on Twitter. “All abuses must stop. International humanitarian law and human rights, especially the hard-won gains of women and girls, must be preserved.”

One of China’s main concerns – raised in a meeting with senior Taliban leaders in July – is the future of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement which Beijing has blamed for unrest in its Xinjiang region. Foreign Minister Wang Yi secured a commitment from the Taliban that it would not let any force “use the Afghan territory to engage in acts detrimental to China”.

At the same meeting, in the eastern Chinese city of Tianjin, Wang slammed the US for its “hasty withdrawal” from Afghanistan and said the Taliban was an “important military and political force” that was “expected to play an important role in the country’s peace, reconciliation and reconstruction process”.

In April, US President Joe Biden’s administration announced it would withdraw US troops from the country by September 11 after his predecessor Donald Trump struck a deal in February 2020 with the Taliban to reduce the US presence there.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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It’s always the events that are impossible to predict that gets you.
None of this was impossible to predict. Anyone even slightly familiar with the moral fibre (or lack thereof) of the puppets the US installs would understand exactly what would happen once that puppeteer's hand is withdrawn. The puppets in Afghanistan were even lower than is typical.
Who could have predicted that the Afghan army would basically surrender without a fight.
Me. Exactly as happened when the Iraqi "government" was left to its own devices. But Iraq was lucky Iran was there to stem the tide of ISIS.
I’m sure the US hoped that civil war would break out in Afghanistan. There would never be peace for decades, and no chance of BRI through Afghanistan.
Trying to guess a strategy or even a "hope" in anything the US does is like trying to find a pattern in a series of coin flips. There's nothing there to find, it's a completely random and mindless process.
but it looks like the Taliban won. And as horrible as that sounds, there might, just might be peace at the end of all this. And peace is good for investments. And good for business.
That's exactly what will happen. None of Afghanistan's neighbours have any interest in seeing the place explode, and the Taliban has shown that despite its retrograde and barbaric ideology, it's sane enough to want money. That's all it takes to do business successfully.
She went batshit crazy after getting the terrorist experience.
What terrorist experience?
 
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