Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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AndrewS

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Biden team is asking Asian countries to commit economic suicide and potentially material suicide by going to war.
For what a declining empire that is broke as fuck.

We're not yet at the point where the US is bankrupt.

You don't need foreign relationship degree or be a geopolitical expert to make the same conclusions as those Asian nations.
Wouldn't be surprised that japan will function as a UK in Asia, Japan is too big to exclude from regional deals
but its also too small to be a pushing China or the other bigger players around.

Japan is a nice to have for a regional deal, but it's not essential.
Remember China is 3-5x bigger, depending on how you measure things.


India will be like a sort of Israel in Asia a soft underbelly easily punctured to wound the landmass.
The west can logistically supply weapons and gear to their mercenaries in central Asia via India.
India already has its own Palestine with Kashmir troubles and its own Muslim citizens.
 

AssassinsMace

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What throws me off is that he doesn't sound like Tidalwave, or any of the other usual suspects.

If anything, I suspect he's a Mr T alt trying to troll us from the other side of the fence.
This specific ID hasn't had a presence in forum. Time will tell. I'm only suspecting because Tidalwave admitted that he's had multiple accounts for a long time in this forum and one he mentioned I remembered from a decade ago. Gatekeeper mention how this guy has been been around a long while with little activity and now he starts to make his presence known now...? Really who spends this amount of time creating new IDs just to spew their critical views on China like it's going change the members' minds here that are more pro-China if he uses another ID? There's a slew of newbies recently also that I suspected and then they were all banned for multiple accounts linked to previous banned IDs which confirmed my suspicions. And after that happens new members show up and off the bat have a beef with the moderators or locks horns with anyone pro-China after they've been banned of course. I told Tidalwave he can change his name but he can't change the way he thinks. There are a lot of tells that he gives away. One I'll mention is he'll be pro-China one day and then he'll be 180 degrees anti-China the next and I'm not talking in a constructive criticism way. How long can you feign being pro-China when down in the core you're not?
 

DarkStar

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Oh please, I wouldn't have been able to immigrate to US without democratic liberal proposing removal of immigration quotas in 1965, especially from Asian countries.

Liberal democrats ain't perfect, but they a hell a lot better than Republicans who were against civil rights movement and Asian immigration. Republicans are the true white supremacists, just look at Trump and friends. Democrats ain't perfect, but a hell of a lot better than Trump and Republicans fascist racist goons.
liberals or rather, the US elites didn't push for mass immigration out of generosity but because
1) They wanted to brain drain the world
2) US elite fortunes depend on increased asset prices ie increasing economic growth which requires increased population and if the existing population are having less babies, this requires importing more warm bodies.

And just because your and my parents were lucky enough to migrate to the anglosphere, doesn't mean we get all the perks as say, a first generation fresh off the plane, just got into the country in the past 2 months brit in australia or america. I've seen 3rd generation Asian Australians get shafted over white anglos because the anglosphere is a racist apartheid caste system.

Biden and his team since obama and trump have been doing what they can to shore up that system of white supremacy; liberals are no different to white supremacist republicans, their only difference is that liberals choose to select a preferred coloured demographic to act as their compradors for eg using the black community to shit on other races that threaten white supremacy
 

AndrewS

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C'mon now...

A- Not even that significant
B- If push comes to shove I highly doubt the petty squabbles would mean much

China is a very powerful neighbor right next door, your economics also depends on China

Hanoi isn't this stupid and I believe they are not in anyway shape or form interested in joining an anti China group like quad

@antiterror13

We already covered Vietnam-China in this thread last year, which is still valid

www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/sino-vietnamese-war-1979-what-was-the-end-results-of-it.8686

1. In 2020, China had an economy 54x larger than Vietnam.
2. Previously Vietnam was explicitly allied with the USSR against China in the 1980s. In order to maintain a credible military deterrent, Vietnam was even more militarised than the USSR. That resulted in impoverishment.
 

crash8pilot

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Libtards and conservatwats = coke and pepsi

Same shit, different administration
 

horse

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So are you saying that liberals actually love minorities?

You make a good point there, as there just are not many blacks in Canada.

Just seems to me that the blacks in America, just do not have any power or influence. It is thug life that is the most influential, but that leads to nowhere but a jail cell.


So I guess I should clarify, that in Canada, there are white Liberals who basically are both left and right, and the minorities may be on one side if they are politically inclined.

In America, it would be:
White Liberal - Democrats version.
White Liberal - Republican version.
White Liberal - black version.

To the Americans, who are very politicized, they would vehemently object to this categorization.

To me, they still all white Liberals.

The white Liberal Republican version, hates minorities. The white Liberal black version, hates minorities too.

With regards to all the issue of our times, white Liberal ideology is basically white supremacy ideology.

Here, the blacks actually want to be accepted it seems, that they want to practice white supremacy together, in that white supremacy should include blacks and not excluded them. A good example of that type of representative is President Obama.

The blacks have been making this point for over 250 years in America it seems to me.
 

Phead128

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liberals or rather, the US elites didn't push for mass immigration out of generosity but because
1) They wanted to brain drain the world
2) US elite fortunes depend on increased asset prices ie increasing economic growth which requires increased population and if the existing population are having less babies, this requires importing more warm bodies.

And just because your and my parents were lucky enough to migrate to the anglosphere, doesn't mean we get all the perks as say, a first generation fresh off the plane, just got into the country in the past 2 months brit in australia or america. I've seen 3rd generation Asian Australians get shafted over white anglos because the anglosphere is a racist apartheid caste system.

Biden and his team since obama and trump have been doing what they can to shore up that system of white supremacy; liberals are no different to white supremacist republicans, their only difference is that liberals choose to select a preferred coloured demographic to act as their compradors for eg using the black community to shit on other races that threaten white supremacy
Yea that's retarded. Liberals fought for African-American civil rights and emancipation of slavery and East Asian immigration reform.

To equate liberals with fascist Trump conservative white supremacists is disingenuous if you go issue for issue based on policy and substance.
 

solarz

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Yea that's retarded. Liberals fought for African-American civil rights and emancipation of slavery and East Asian immigration reform.

To equate liberals with fascist Trump conservative white supremacists is disingenuous if you go issue for issue based on policy and substance.

I would say Black Americans fight for their civil rights themselves. It's telling that you think the white liberals fought for them, they are quite adept at taking credit.

Policy and substance wise, how is Biden different from Trump?
 

DarkStar

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Yea that's retarded. Liberals fought for African-American civil rights and emancipation of slavery and East Asian immigration reform.

To equate liberals with fascist Trump conservative white supremacists is disingenuous if you go issue for issue based on policy and substance.
No, what's retarded is believing the myth that liberals were genuine about fighting for true african american et al civil rights; cvil rights reform had to happen in 60s america else wise the soviets would continue to have a sore point they could stick into capitalist anglo america: "and you too, lynch negroes!!"

It wasn't by choice that america's ruling class, liberal or otherwise relented and had civil rights enshrined- especially given the fact that american americans are still the poorest and imprisoned and repressed of demographics in modern america today. Sounds like liberals either weren't being true to their word or that america as a system is simply a white feudal oligarchy and that civil rights as espoused by MLK was simply a pipe dream.
 

Phead128

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I would say Black Americans fight for their civil rights themselves. It's telling that you think the white liberals fought for them, they are quite adept at taking credit.
Democratic liberals introduced the Civil Rights bill, Immigration Reform bills, and Emancipation of Slavery bills. Black Americans had no representation in Congress or House or Senate. So yes, white liberals did introduce these pivotal bills. We don't give 100% credit to white liberals, but that's not even the point. I'm disputing whether white liberals are "white supremacists" like Republican conservatives which actively opposed every one of those.

Policy and substance wise, how is Biden different from Trump?

Biden is 'Republican Lite'. I wish he was a liberal, but his policy is half-agreement with Trump, esp. on foreign policy as of today. Biden refuses to re-join Iran nuclear deal, refuses to lift Trump-era tariffs, continuing with Trump-era hostility to China. Biden is right-wing in his foreign policy. Biden isn't even remotely white liberal like Bernie Sanders, which actively criticizes US imperialist foreign policy like Iraq war. Biden voted FOR the Iraq war.

No, what's retarded is believing the myth that liberals were genuine about fighting for true african american et al civil rights; cvil rights reform had to happen in 60s america else wise the soviets would continue to have a sore point they could stick into capitalist anglo america: "and you too, lynch negroes!!"

The Jim Crow laws were justified using religion and "God", so I doubt Soviet propaganda "You Bad Too" would have made any difference on lynching blacks.
 
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