2020/2021 Tokyo Summer Olympics

Gatekeeper

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It is a disappointment. It has a chance to get bronze. Chinese gymnastics teams need a major revamp like the Chinese shooting team has done after disappointed result in Rio.

BTW, major MSM outlets such as NYT and CNN are completed silence for sometime about the fact the US women team lost to the Russia. Superstar Simone Biles and the US women team were expected to win and to win decisively for the US. The disappointment would have a major repercussion for the US women gymnastics team.

Their silence is deafening!
 

getready

Senior Member
I think the Ruskies are going to sweep this year.
Yeah they just did. Congrats to them. They performed well. The men's team they were the co-favourite going in to the OG. The women's team though were predicted to get either silver or bronze. No one thought US women's team would be beaten in the team event.


Chinese women's team seem to have a mental issue though when it comes to major international competitions. Usually they hit their routines in domestic competitions but falter when it comes to the big stage. The most recent example was 2019 worlds championships when they were in a good position but of all people, their leading all around champion liu tingting messed up quite bad and they ended up in 4th just out of the medals.
 
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KYli

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I think the Russia won two silver and China won a bronze and a forth place in the previous two world championships for women gymnastics team.
 

siegecrossbow

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So far I feel both China and the US are under performing this year. With China you got them losing gold for weight lifting, men’s gymnastics, diving, and table tennis. With the US you got Simone Biles dropping out but more importantly it looks like the swimming team, while good, no longer dominates like they did in the Phelps-Lochte era.

In contrast Japan and Russia are over performing, especially Japan in newly introduced categories.
 

Appix

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So far I feel both China and the US are under performing this year. With China you got them losing gold for weight lifting, men’s gymnastics, diving, and table tennis. With the US you got Simone Biles dropping out but more importantly it looks like the swimming team, while good, no longer dominates like they did in the Phelps-Lochte era.

In contrast Japan and Russia are over performing, especially Japan in newly introduced categories.
China got three gold medals on the fourth olympic day for a total tally of nine gold medals. Better than yesterday with zero gold medals.
 

sndef888

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So far I feel both China and the US are under performing this year. With China you got them losing gold for weight lifting, men’s gymnastics, diving, and table tennis. With the US you got Simone Biles dropping out but more importantly it looks like the swimming team, while good, no longer dominates like they did in the Phelps-Lochte era.

In contrast Japan and Russia are over performing, especially Japan in newly introduced categories.
I agree. But the difference is China, once it lost those 6 golds yesterday will find it very hard to make it up

The US still has dozens of swimming events

Good for Russia though, nice to see them strong again
 

KYli

Brigadier
I don't think China has underperformed if it is compared with Rio. Compare with London, China does seem to be underperformed. However, most people don't expect China to get 38 gold medals and 91 total medals this year. The high expectation is 35 gold and 85 medals. The medium expectation is over 30 gold and over 80 medals. Anything less than that would be a great disappointment.
 

j17wang

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Actually this team had a chance for silver. Li shi jia injury just before the OG was pretty devastating but the bronze is still definitely within reach.

Most predicted US as certainty for gold. Well before the Biles injury. But silver was supposed to be contested by Russia and China.

Qualifications the Chinese team did well enough. Unfortunately tonite they had a few big errors. And suspicion of artificially low scores in the floor event. This is bad result in any case.

Lets not forget that Biles was treated completely like garbage by USA gymanstics in the cover-up of her being sexually assaulted by white convicted sex offender Larry Nasser. The organization is a complete disgrace. Does not deserve any medals.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
This is what I keep on about the quotas system. It's like a loaded dice in favour of the western nations.
It'd be great if there were a medal for complaining, eh? But there's not, so you can stop going on about it now. Winners don't whine and whiners don't win. I love it when I hear adversaries complain about things being "unfair" or comparing thier situation to "loaded dice." They are mentally defeated and I tell them, "Yeah, life's so hard and unfair. You should quit."

There's nothing to complain about. Swimming and running are not over-represented; they are more competitive and more universal. If the US can take 28 out of 37 swimming medals, then there will be quotas to stop them. You complain that a single good runner or swimmer can win multiple medals, but the US complains that they have 1 swimmer who needs to go for broke 2-3 races in one day. You complain that there are too many distances in running and swimming while Americans complain that there are too many weight classes in weightlifting! How about we make basketball worth 14 gold medals with 7 height classes for each gender? Why are ping pong and badminton worth 5 golds each and basketball, water polo, soccer, field hockey, tennis, etc... worth 2 each? With all the doping (primarily in the Easter European block), weightlifting is lucky to still be an Olympic sport. Powerlifting and Strongman, both sports that are heavily Causasian, aren't even allowed in the Olympics because there's too much doping.

No more complaining; it is what sore losers do. Win or lose; accept it with grace and fight to become better.
 
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