2020/2021 Tokyo Summer Olympics

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There is a curse in Chinese weightlifting that any youngster who challenges Lv Xiaojun thinking that it's his time to shine over the old lion will be injured. Lv Xiaojun first became a sensation in 2009 when he broke the snatch and total world records at the Goyang World Championships in South Korea. He was 25. Young Lu Haojie challenged Lv Xiaojun in 2011 for the Olympic spot, snatching 175kg before Lv Xiaojun ever did! They both went to London where Lv Xiaojun successfully lifted 175 again and created new world recored. Lu Haojie was injured in competition (still silver) and never able to challenge Lv again. Then, in 2015, Lv Xiaojun was now 31 and past due for retirement in weightlifting. Youg star Su Ying beat Lv Xiaojun at the nationals saying that he's just getting started. Everyone thought Lv would happily pass the mantle. It was not meant to be as Su Ying suffered several training injuries and had to retire into a commerical Crossfit coach. Lv went on to Rio at age 32 and will be awarded the gold again once Kazakhstan's drug disqualification completes the legal paperwork. Everyone thought that would be Lv's retirement and Lv himself says he wants a replacement so he can retire. Enter Li Dayin, strong young rising star lifting more at each competition. Bright personality, a smile like the rays of the sun with every lift. Lv said that Li Dayin took the pressure off of him; now he can fail and be ok without letting the nation down. Everyone knew that Li Dayin would go to Tokyo and Lv was just playing around until his formal retirement. However, this relaxation caused Lv's training to improve and without expectations, Lv Xiaojun began to rise again. To beat him, Li trained harder and harder and a darkness overcame him. He no longer smiled and he no longer looked happy. Every lift came with a grimace of pain... Despite this, he could never beat Lv Xiaojun at a big international event. A few months ago, Li Dayin took the snatch world record at the Asian Championships with a lift that would would injure him, and Lv Xiaojun finished the competition victorious again. With the curse against those who wish to take up Lv Xiaojun's mantle before he's ready, 3 young lads have fallen to injury, often in competition, and Lv Xiaojun is headed into his third Olympic games as the heavy favorite for the gold.

Ok you win; you enjoy weightlifting more than me.

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Wow. I see what you mean. She has got a face like thunder. You wouldn't want to be in the same room as her. That's for sure. Lol.
 

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@Kaine yes only the Chinese who dominate the sport like Diving, Table Tennis and weightlifting while the Americans and the Aussie were not especially in swimming which they dominate. Its what the West called fair competition...lol

Yup, the Americans stack the sports they dominate like swimming full of medals .

That's how 1 person like Michael Phelps can win 6 medals. They just need 1 talent to win all the "different" events.

This "quotas" is a bit unfair. It's like the table tennis and badminton where they changed it so China won't get as much medals as before the change. Yet the sprints etc you can literally have a 1, 2 and 3 for the USA.

See my reply above a few posts back. The system is completely stacked against China.

Like they reduced the number of table tennis and badminton combinations to reduce China getting more medals. Yet events like swimming gets different distants, styles and relays. Just like relays in running.

FFS. If you can swim and run. You probably can win more than one medal only. Yet, if you can plan table tennis, you are limited to individual or double events only. There's no more team events. Also I think (from memory) each country is limited to two entrants.

So basically, the rules have been bent and stacked against China.
Chinese media picking up on the CNN title.

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At the risks of opening this up again. I think the Chinese media's are thinking along the same wavelength as us on this. I still believe the headline is no accident of laziness of the journalists or his editor.

Anyway, let's celebrate our first day at this Covid Olympics

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manqiangrexue

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See my reply above a few posts back. The system is completely stacked against China.

Like they reduced the number of table tennis and badminton combinations to reduce China getting more medals. Yet events like swimming gets different distants, styles and relays. Just like relays in running.

FFS. If you can swim and run. You probably can win more than one medal only. Yet, if you can plan table tennis, you are limited to individual or double events only. There's no more team events. Also I think (from memory) each country is limited to two entrants.

So basically, the rules have been bent and stacked against China.
In general, I agree that the IOC and the Euro-American alliance are trying to reduce Chinese medals, however, it's not quite as unreasonable as you make it sound.

Running and swimming are the most universal physical activities in the world, so it makes sense that they are heavily represented. Even so, no nation can truly dominate them. A country can get more gold medals than any other country, but never ever close to getting more gold medals than every other country combined. As distance comes to play, the dominant players switch, with the sprints going to Jamaica, and African American while the distance running goes to Kenyans and Ethiopians.

On the other hand, you have more specialized sports such as table tennis, diving, badminton, Taekwondo, Judo, weightlifting, etc... These things are far less universal and one country can literally run the show and bag all the gold medals sometimes. China can take more gold medals than every other country combined in some of the categories I'd mentioned and so could Korea in Taekwondo, Japan in Judo. So that really detracts from the international watch-ability to see the Chinese flag raised at every medal, therefore, athlete quotas were made to prevent it.
 

siegecrossbow

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In general, I agree that the IOC and the Euro-American alliance are trying to reduce Chinese medals, however, it's not quite as unreasonable as you make it sound.

Running and swimming are the most universal physical activities in the world, so it makes sense that they are heavily represented. Even so, no nation can truly dominate them. A country can get more gold medals than any other country, but never ever close to getting more gold medals than every other country combined. As distance comes to play, the dominant players switch, with the sprints going to Jamaica, and African American while the distance running goes to Kenyans and Ethiopians.

On the other hand, you have more specialized sports such as table tennis, diving, badminton, Taekwondo, Judo, weightlifting, etc... These things are far less universal and one country can literally run the show and bag all the gold medals sometimes. China can take more gold medals than every other country combined in some of the categories I'd mentioned and so could Korea in Taekwondo, Japan in Judo. So that really detracts from the international watch-ability to see the Chinese flag raised at every medal, therefore, athlete quotas were made to prevent it.

Instead of complaining, it is better to raise better athletes for those fields.
 

Kaine

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Instead of complaining, it is better to raise better athletes for those fields.
Its not unreasonable that these countries are dominating these kinds of sports. They have decades of sport legacy in specific sports which makes it extremely difficult for "new" sport powers to displace them.

It will take much dedicated funding and most importantly, time, to compete with the US and European powerhouses on their sport "strengths"

And China is already making great progress on this. We should keep in mind though that this is a decade(s?) long process
 
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