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PiSigma

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Xsizor said:
Maybe they are just prepping the ground for laying the asphalt layers? Anyway, the word "world class" here probably refers to the use of automated machinery used to do this. Good enough for Indian domestic propaganda, I guess.
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Modern asphalt roads have 4 layers. The first is a dirt layer that's about half a foot to one foot below grade, then a gravel layer, a sand layer with the final asphalt on top. The fact they are scrapping the top soil and calling it a road means it won't be paved. It might get a gravel layer at best.

I used to have a gravel lane in the back of my house for garage access and garbage disposal, but now it's been paved over. In the hamalayas, a gravel layer is pretty useless since any snow melt would wash away a ton of gravel and sand with even small changes in grade.
 
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PiSigma said:
Modern asphalt roads have 4 layers. The first is a dirt layer that's about half a foot to one foot below grade, then a gravel layer, a sand layer with the final asphalt on top. The fact they are scrapping the top soil and calling it a road means it won't be paved. It might get a gravel layer at best.

I used to have a gravel lane in the back of my house for garage access and garbage disposal, but now it's been paved over. In the hamalayas, a gravel layer is pretty useless since any snow melt would wash away a ton of gravel and sand with even small changes in grade.
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You're missing the point: it's world class. Jai Hind.
 
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PiSigma said:
Modern asphalt roads have 4 layers. The first is a dirt layer that's about half a foot to one foot below grade, then a gravel layer, a sand layer with the final asphalt on top. The fact they are scrapping the top soil and calling it a road means it won't be paved. It might get a gravel layer at best.

I used to have a gravel lane in the back of my house for garage access and garbage disposal, but now it's been paved over. In the hamalayas, a gravel layer is pretty useless since any snow melt would wash away a ton of gravel and sand with even small changes in grade.
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Even asphalt roads would have problems in the Himalayan conditions. Mudslides, flooding, and avalanches are very common, and some of them are so severe than they could alter the landscape significantly. That hill you used to mark the end of patrol last year? Not there anymore after an earth quake. A not insignificant number of intrusions are simply caused by soldiers from both sides not able to find the old land marks.

This is why just constructing a road is not enough, you need to maintain it. That would in turn require local infrastructure that could sustain not only garrisoned troops but locals who man stores, supply depots, and other services.
 
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Hendrik_2000 said:
China never recognize the independent of East Turkestan just like Mongolia it is creation of Russia. Qing government has constant present until Xinhai revolution then they sort retreat and create power vacuum in Xinjiang which this separatist use to declare independent but very brief 1933 to 1934 but crushed by warlord Sheng Shicai. then the 2nd Turkestan in 1940's But Mao persuade them to give up and create Xinjiang autonomous region and the ringleader Aptekin fled to Turkey

India has always has designed on Tibet because of McMahon line which is fictive creation of British as China never sign or recognize the line. So there is no justification at all for India claim. China took over the south Tibet and Ladakh in 62 war But because they are more urgent need to develop the economy. China sue for peace, China willingly give it back to India . So there is nothing ultra nationalist here. Those land are China's to begin with and due to weak Qing dynasty China temporally lost control.
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Don't you think it's a waste of time educating the Jai Hind crowd?
 
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twineedle said:
Both sides had camps in that area from September until February
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Indeed. But satellite imagery doesn't capture troop presence do they?

The veracity of the claims - troop presence - is indeed up for debate ( since there is lack of evidence). But since it can be cross checked and verified, I don't think the proponent of the claims were careless in making them.

If the images are true then there seem to be no infrastructure. But can't say the same for troops from China going into patrols to this region.
 
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As we know, there are approximately 6.3 million Tibetans in China. If we use a figure of 6 people per family, then that would mean al one million soldiers in the PLA are Tibetans!!!

On the other hand, there is speculated to be around 12,000 soldiers in the Special Frontier Force, which comprise mostly of Tibetan exiles in India.

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We know that the number of Tibetan exiles in India has dropped 44% since 2011 to around 80,000 people.

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Did this Jai Hind inadvertently reveal Indian Army’s new recruitment policy concerning ethnic Tibetans?
 
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