Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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The long term implications of these mRna vacs will be far more astounding than the covid itself.... especially for young people barely in their teens... they will have to live with it for rest of their lives... "You will own nothing, have no privacy, go nowhere, and be happy"
And I don't understand the mentality of these overseas Chinese. They might not agree with the way of CCP but at the time China is facing powerful external enemies hell bent on destroying it, the least they can do is stay neutral, even less colluding with the enemies. This is an act of betrayal to all Chinese, not China. We solve our difference when our enemies are defeated kind of mentality. All Chinese should stand together when one Chinese is under threat.
This is the next stage of the narrative battle. The world needs to know that the mRNA vaccines are a bioweapon, one being pushed by their own governments.
The eugenicists in charge want to cull the world population. China is not the enemy, rather, it is the scientists and their useful idiots in WESTERN GOVERNMENTS who are.
DO YOU WANT TO LIVE?
I dont disagree with the fact that humanity at its current crossroads is unsustainable, earth is overpopulated, resource depletion, climate catastrophe etc...
I've also realized most people dont really want to think about these larger implication issues and would rather stick head back into sand and get back to normal with infinite growth etc....
There will not be a "return to "normal"" because 2019 was the peak... of Western civilization and perhaps humanity and all life on earth
Peak Oil, Resource Depletion, deminishing EROEI and the long term implications for the continued development of China...
I would like to start a thread to discuss in earnest the bigger picture of energy/resource dynamic and how it will affect China's continued growth and development going forward in the next decades to come... As you all know, recently Xi committed China to be carbon neutral by 2060, and the...
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Alas, in the long run, and from the bigger picture perspective, a net positive rate of return on investment overall in aggregate is only possible in society if that society or civilization continued to grow as a whole... Continued global growth is only possible if we are able to consume more and more resources as well as have increasingly abundant access to usable energy of EROEI sufficient to power modern global civilization and it’s continued upwards growth.
Back in high school most of us were taught about the "time-value of money" and encouraged to put aside money while we were younger and showed how if we saved smartly and "invested" early on and let the power of the exponential function work for us etc that by the time we reached retirement age that sum would have multiplied by orders of magnitudes and we have would amassed a fortune...
The only conceivable way the above dynamic is possible wholesale and in masse is if that society as a whole and the wealth within it was consistently growing over time, as the pie got larger, then one's share of it inflated and grew commensurately.
Given that our modern civilization and globalized economy/world is predominantly powered by fossil fuels and hydrocarbons as the main source of energy, and given the fact that we enjoy and are indeed direct recipients to this "multiplier of work/productivity/wealth" enabled by the use of (relatively) cheap and abundant oil, natural gas, coal, etc it stands to reason that as we approach the final global limits to energy consumption growth, so will our aggregate economies contract...
There is no debate that we have long since passed peak discovery curve. And there is no doubt that all production/consumption curves must necessarily follow and trail their discovery curves/peaks...This is basic logic, math, physics...
Nothing in the short term will be able to replace or fully substitute the energy deficit left by both the decline in quantity of fossil fuels and the quality (EROEI) of the limited quantity still remaining. Renewables such as solar are currently subsidized by governments economically and entropically by our existing fossil fuel infrastructure, and solar is a net energy sink as far as modern civilization is concerned given we require at least EROEI of 7 to just survive (15+ to thrive) and the rate limiting factor of lithium, battery technology, rare earths all add up to the infeasibility of solar as a renewable solution. Even if we solved fusion today it would still take another three decades to fully scale up, and our global civilization cannot avoid the common collapse in the meantime...
Given that globally economies will shrink as a whole, given that our total access to energy both in terms of quantity of energy and the quality of remaining energy will continue to steadily decline over time, and since clearly it has been established that modern global wealth is entirely dependent upon its access to energy; it is inevitable to assume anything else other than the reality that as the aggregate amount of real energy, resources and wealth on our planet falls off a cliff and we enter the long decline/collapse that we will have a massive surplus of the "symbolic human construct" that we have used to "count up, tally, measure, represent and account for energy, resources, wealth, etc out there in the world." and therefore with a bunch of existing money no longer able to find/pair/bind with their corresponding resource/wealth counterparts out there in the 'real world', we have a situation of hyperinflation whereby all currencies and monies will lose the vast majority of their currently perceived value... those that get out fast and convert to real hard assets and tangible resources first will be much better off than those left holding US dollars and bitcoin, which arguably is the largest scam and Ponzi pyramid scheme bubble in the history of all mankind...whether by intention or not, bitcoin serves the purpose of holding up the masses while the elites get out from under before the whole scheme implodes upon itself supernova style... there is a reason Bill Gates is buying up farmland instead of virtual scamcoins...
As predicted, China delayed the reopening of its border until the second half of 2022. I think travel bubble could be arranged with certain countries that are deemed low risk.
Based on my personal experience and what I have read and heard, those type of overseas Chinese people have various reasons why they dont like the CPC (not CCP btw). For example, some got wronged by the Communists during the various movements led by the CPC such as the Cultural Revolution and the anti Conservative movement (ironically both of them produced generations of bootlickers). Some fanatically believe that the KMT did no wrong. Some couldnt steal as much money as the upper echelons (during the Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao eras) did. However many of them are afraid of losing their 'I have a US/UK/[insert a supposedly superior nation here] green card or equivalent/citizenship' status in China. In the past, getting a green card or equivalent is something Chinese people would throw parties over. Nowadays, people, particularly the youth, dont give a damn and, based on the internet reactions to the US, are extremely annoyed by them.
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Doesnt look good for international vacationing this year
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You have to wonder whether the powers that be in western MSM have some sort of hypnotic power. They would report on something shocking and it would just go past the readers as if it's something to be expected and quite normal and nothing of the vaccine's efficacy should be an issue.
Imagine how all hell will break loose and how they will turn into the monster that they're if the vaccine turns out to be a Chinese one.
Check out this bit of info in the article:
1/55 =>> (100/55)/100 = 1.18/100 (infected percentage of vaccinated individuals)
2/45 =>> (200/45)/100 = 4.44/100 (infected percentage of unvaccinated individuals)
The infection breakthrough rate could be estimated as : 1.18/4.44 = 27% !
(Assuming the same percentage of vaccinated individuals
are exposed to the virus as that of the unvaccinated individuals)
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From the WHO, now recommending people under 18 should not get the mRna vaccine, "for the time being"
This is not good folks