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Temstar

Brigadier
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And they were in talks with the Taliban I believe

But yes still very dangerous gamble here cause a collapse of Afghan gov is imminent (after withdrawal) but that means

A- dealing with a religious fundamentalist group, I really don't trust that Chinese will come good here, no experience dealing with something like this except force which won't work in Afghanistan
B- Xinjiang issue may cause problem as a stable afghan Taliban gov won't just sit idly by and count the $'s
C- If you get approval from both Taliban and Afghan gov it doesn't mean things won't change in 10 years period, cause in case of Afghan gov collapse thierll likely be a rise of different warlords to counter Taliban who will take money from the opposing side (US, India etc) to fund thier campaign
China use to deal with Afghans back in the cold war. It worked like this:

US would provide the funds to mujahideen (bin Laden et al)
China sell weapon to mujahideen to earn that sweet sweet CIA cash
Mujahideen use those weapons and give Soviet troops what for

So no, China does have experience dealing with fundamentalist group.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
UK and Aus hail their historical trade deal!
It's becoming to look like a trade between two desperate nations.

It sort of reminded of last dance at the prom. Where everyone has partnered off, leaving the two uglies behind. And they thought, oh well, let's get together.

Let's not forget that Australia and NZ have a special relationship, so when NZ gets her FTA with the UK it will become a menage a trois.
 

bluewater2012

Junior Member
Can any members here confirm this to be true or just made up fake rumor? No mention in Air Force sub thread under SIGNIt & EW either. Heard about this news on youtube a few days ago discussing it so i went and did some googling today and got this source here with English translation below thru google:

In order to keep it confidential and truthfully explain the situation, all information from the U.S. military and international media is quoted here.

In the early morning of June 4, Japan’s TBS TV station suddenly interrupted the broadcast situation, saying: “Yesterday (3rd) early morning, an RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane of the U.S. Air Force took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and proceeded to the southeast coast of China. Before dawn, near the northern mouth of the Taiwan Strait, in the airspace less than 55 nautical miles from Fujian Xiapu Air Force Base in the Eastern Theater of China, he was suddenly intercepted and rounded up by three electronic counter-reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1" of the Chinese Air Force. This is the Chinese Air Force’s first appearance in the war.

The Japanese media were really dedicated, as if they were on the scene, reporting the whole process as eye-catching and clear as their own military exercises: "The situation was very urgent at the time. The U.S. Air Force’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane was in China. Under the pursuit and interception of the Air Force "Falcon 1", a very real aerial "cat and mouse game" was staged. The RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft was "throated" time and time again. All reconnaissance equipment on the aircraft failed; several times The aircraft was unable to control and fell into the sea out of control; several times it fell into a state of collapse of the navigation system. Japanese media exclaimed: "If the Taiwan Strait really does, the US military’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane has only two options, either to be captured or shot down to the sea.”

In this regard, the only official source of our “South China Sea Strategic Situational Awareness” think tank stated: “In the early morning of June 3, there was indeed a U.S. Air Force RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane that took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and secretly entered Fujian. The electronic reconnaissance in the East China Sea airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base was promptly and resolutely expelled by our Air Force fighters. As for what type of fighter planes the People's Liberation Army dispatched to expel them, I officially kept silent."

At the same time, China's official media has been very low-key, with almost no reports about the US RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft invading the airspace of the air defense identification zone near the military sensitive area of Fujian. It's just that the World Wide Web reprinted the "South China Sea Strategic Situation Awareness" news:

However, overseas media have responded strongly to this. In the past few days, media in Japan, the United States, South Korea, and the French and German media in Europe have all reported and commented on it. Especially for the first time that the Chinese Air Force deployed the mysterious anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1", and the sword was used for the first time, it severely frustrated the most advanced U.S. military RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, which caused a shock from the Western media.

On the morning of the 4th, the US military’s Global Air Defense media platform stated: “RC-135U is the most advanced reconnaissance aircraft currently in service in the US military. The biggest weapon and "housekeeper" to seize air supremacy.

However, when facing China’s "Falcon 1" yesterday, it was suddenly completely electronically suppressed. The entire aircraft was completely out of control, but the Kadena base camp, which was close at hand, did not know it.”

On the evening of the 3rd, Major Rodriguez, a spokesman for the US military at Kadena Base, reluctantly said to the media, “Before, we had almost no knowledge of China’s Falcon 1. Our intelligence agency was actually the best in China. In front of advanced weapons, he became blind and deaf. This time it was only when it flew in front of us that he suddenly knew its existence.” He added: “Even the name'Falcon 1', our intelligence department It also took a huge price to find out. As for its specific aviation technical information, we know very little."

Major Rodriguez said at the briefing: “According to the specific introduction of the pilot flying the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, we learned what happened in the early hours of yesterday. Our RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, as usual, was at 3 Taking off in the early morning of the day, from Kadena Base to the high seas airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base in Fujian, China, for routine electronic reconnaissance flights. Their main task on this trip is still to detect the deployment of the Chinese military in the coastal areas of Fujian and Zhejiang and to detect them The deployment situation and combat performance of weapons and equipment, the frequency of collecting their electronic communication signals, and so on.

"After about an hour of flying, our RC-135U reconnaissance plane arrived in the established airspace and was preparing to carry out reconnaissance work. At this time, the pilot suddenly perceived with his naked eyes that there were three moving flying objects in the air from the top, front, and back directions. Outflank it. But what is surprising is the advent of such a serious air strike, the eyes can see, and the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft's own anti-electronic jamming system and reconnaissance system did not respond. Everything is too late, because the other party The RC-135U has been surrounded and locked, the reconnaissance equipment has failed, the communication system has failed, the aircraft is out of control, can't move at all, the communication system has failed, the aircraft has lost control of navigation, and can't move at all. It feels like being stifled by the throat. This way. In the next flight, the situation of danger was continuously staged and appeared three times. In desperation, we followed international practice and repeatedly expressed goodwill to the Chinese military aircraft several times before the other party finally allowed our aircraft to fly out of the dangerous airspace quickly. ".

Major Rodriguez finally emphasized: "I feel like we are being teased by the other side again and again in the air like mice. At the same time, it also shows that the Chinese Air Force’s Falcon 1 is very terrible. We ate a complete one. Lost in the air. This is an extremely rare humiliation and humiliation that the U.S. Air Force has suffered since World War II."

Major Rodriguez’s briefing was quickly spread to many media around the world, and aroused international public opinion in exclamation and shock. According to the comment from the web client of South Korea's "Seoul Arms": "In the past 20 years, China's weapons and equipment have seen rapid development, just like its national strength. Especially this time, the mysterious weapon "Falcon 1" has been revealed, which is low-key. There will certainly be many weapons like the Chinese military."

The South Korean intelligence agency also issued a statement on the same day: "According to what we know, the Chinese Air Force "Falcon 1" is the world's newest and most advanced anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft. Its main task is to target the US military's frequent attacks on China's coastal areas and Taiwan Electronic reconnaissance in the sea and the South China Sea is used for aerial countermeasures. In addition to electronic countermeasures and intelligence collection, it also has powerful anti-electronic reconnaissance functions. The most frightening thing is that it not only has the most advanced stealth and protection It also has powerful electronic coverage, electronic blocking, and electronic destruction capabilities. This is the most advanced electronic countermeasure technology in the world that has surpassed the United States and the West. This technology will directly destroy all electronic communication systems of the target aircraft. The opponent's high-altitude aircraft completely turned into a headless fly out of control."

In the afternoon of the same day, Professor Kudur Riffert from the Munich Army Military Academy, Germany, commented through the media: “According to the current technical assessment of China’s air force, the flight range and combat radius of the Falcon 1 are expected to reach 3800-4500. Kilometers. If air refueling is implemented, the farthest may exceed 8000 to 12000 kilometers. It can easily fly over the US military base in Hawaii, and even directly reach Los Angeles or San Francisco on the west coast of the US, and the US military’s existing radar cannot detect it at all. It can be said to be A stealthy and proud intercontinental aircraft."

"What a terrible weapon. China has mastered this weapon manufacturing technology before the United States and put it into combat before the United States. The United States and the United States Air Force have become the targets of China's advanced weapons testing. And the proving ground.” Finally, Professor Liffeyt pointed out: “The United States and the West must admit that China will soon be strong if it blocks China; if it challenges China, China will quickly defeat what; and if it suppresses China, China Soon to surpass something; China's strength and rise, the United States and the West can no longer stop it.

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solarz

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Can any members here confirm this to be true or just made up fake rumor? No mention in Air Force sub thread under SIGNIt & EW either. Heard about this news on youtube a few days ago discussing it so i went and did some googling today and got this source here with English translation below thru google:

In order to keep it confidential and truthfully explain the situation, all information from the U.S. military and international media is quoted here.

In the early morning of June 4, Japan’s TBS TV station suddenly interrupted the broadcast situation, saying: “Yesterday (3rd) early morning, an RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane of the U.S. Air Force took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and proceeded to the southeast coast of China. Before dawn, near the northern mouth of the Taiwan Strait, in the airspace less than 55 nautical miles from Fujian Xiapu Air Force Base in the Eastern Theater of China, he was suddenly intercepted and rounded up by three electronic counter-reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1" of the Chinese Air Force. This is the Chinese Air Force’s first appearance in the war.

The Japanese media were really dedicated, as if they were on the scene, reporting the whole process as eye-catching and clear as their own military exercises: "The situation was very urgent at the time. The U.S. Air Force’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane was in China. Under the pursuit and interception of the Air Force "Falcon 1", a very real aerial "cat and mouse game" was staged. The RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft was "throated" time and time again. All reconnaissance equipment on the aircraft failed; several times The aircraft was unable to control and fell into the sea out of control; several times it fell into a state of collapse of the navigation system. Japanese media exclaimed: "If the Taiwan Strait really does, the US military’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane has only two options, either to be captured or shot down to the sea.”

In this regard, the only official source of our “South China Sea Strategic Situational Awareness” think tank stated: “In the early morning of June 3, there was indeed a U.S. Air Force RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane that took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and secretly entered Fujian. The electronic reconnaissance in the East China Sea airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base was promptly and resolutely expelled by our Air Force fighters. As for what type of fighter planes the People's Liberation Army dispatched to expel them, I officially kept silent."

At the same time, China's official media has been very low-key, with almost no reports about the US RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft invading the airspace of the air defense identification zone near the military sensitive area of Fujian. It's just that the World Wide Web reprinted the "South China Sea Strategic Situation Awareness" news:

However, overseas media have responded strongly to this. In the past few days, media in Japan, the United States, South Korea, and the French and German media in Europe have all reported and commented on it. Especially for the first time that the Chinese Air Force deployed the mysterious anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1", and the sword was used for the first time, it severely frustrated the most advanced U.S. military RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, which caused a shock from the Western media.

On the morning of the 4th, the US military’s Global Air Defense media platform stated: “RC-135U is the most advanced reconnaissance aircraft currently in service in the US military. The biggest weapon and "housekeeper" to seize air supremacy.

However, when facing China’s "Falcon 1" yesterday, it was suddenly completely electronically suppressed. The entire aircraft was completely out of control, but the Kadena base camp, which was close at hand, did not know it.”

On the evening of the 3rd, Major Rodriguez, a spokesman for the US military at Kadena Base, reluctantly said to the media, “Before, we had almost no knowledge of China’s Falcon 1. Our intelligence agency was actually the best in China. In front of advanced weapons, he became blind and deaf. This time it was only when it flew in front of us that he suddenly knew its existence.” He added: “Even the name'Falcon 1', our intelligence department It also took a huge price to find out. As for its specific aviation technical information, we know very little."

Major Rodriguez said at the briefing: “According to the specific introduction of the pilot flying the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, we learned what happened in the early hours of yesterday. Our RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, as usual, was at 3 Taking off in the early morning of the day, from Kadena Base to the high seas airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base in Fujian, China, for routine electronic reconnaissance flights. Their main task on this trip is still to detect the deployment of the Chinese military in the coastal areas of Fujian and Zhejiang and to detect them The deployment situation and combat performance of weapons and equipment, the frequency of collecting their electronic communication signals, and so on.

"After about an hour of flying, our RC-135U reconnaissance plane arrived in the established airspace and was preparing to carry out reconnaissance work. At this time, the pilot suddenly perceived with his naked eyes that there were three moving flying objects in the air from the top, front, and back directions. Outflank it. But what is surprising is the advent of such a serious air strike, the eyes can see, and the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft's own anti-electronic jamming system and reconnaissance system did not respond. Everything is too late, because the other party The RC-135U has been surrounded and locked, the reconnaissance equipment has failed, the communication system has failed, the aircraft is out of control, can't move at all, the communication system has failed, the aircraft has lost control of navigation, and can't move at all. It feels like being stifled by the throat. This way. In the next flight, the situation of danger was continuously staged and appeared three times. In desperation, we followed international practice and repeatedly expressed goodwill to the Chinese military aircraft several times before the other party finally allowed our aircraft to fly out of the dangerous airspace quickly. ".

Major Rodriguez finally emphasized: "I feel like we are being teased by the other side again and again in the air like mice. At the same time, it also shows that the Chinese Air Force’s Falcon 1 is very terrible. We ate a complete one. Lost in the air. This is an extremely rare humiliation and humiliation that the U.S. Air Force has suffered since World War II."

Major Rodriguez’s briefing was quickly spread to many media around the world, and aroused international public opinion in exclamation and shock. According to the comment from the web client of South Korea's "Seoul Arms": "In the past 20 years, China's weapons and equipment have seen rapid development, just like its national strength. Especially this time, the mysterious weapon "Falcon 1" has been revealed, which is low-key. There will certainly be many weapons like the Chinese military."

The South Korean intelligence agency also issued a statement on the same day: "According to what we know, the Chinese Air Force "Falcon 1" is the world's newest and most advanced anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft. Its main task is to target the US military's frequent attacks on China's coastal areas and Taiwan Electronic reconnaissance in the sea and the South China Sea is used for aerial countermeasures. In addition to electronic countermeasures and intelligence collection, it also has powerful anti-electronic reconnaissance functions. The most frightening thing is that it not only has the most advanced stealth and protection It also has powerful electronic coverage, electronic blocking, and electronic destruction capabilities. This is the most advanced electronic countermeasure technology in the world that has surpassed the United States and the West. This technology will directly destroy all electronic communication systems of the target aircraft. The opponent's high-altitude aircraft completely turned into a headless fly out of control."

In the afternoon of the same day, Professor Kudur Riffert from the Munich Army Military Academy, Germany, commented through the media: “According to the current technical assessment of China’s air force, the flight range and combat radius of the Falcon 1 are expected to reach 3800-4500. Kilometers. If air refueling is implemented, the farthest may exceed 8000 to 12000 kilometers. It can easily fly over the US military base in Hawaii, and even directly reach Los Angeles or San Francisco on the west coast of the US, and the US military’s existing radar cannot detect it at all. It can be said to be A stealthy and proud intercontinental aircraft."

"What a terrible weapon. China has mastered this weapon manufacturing technology before the United States and put it into combat before the United States. The United States and the United States Air Force have become the targets of China's advanced weapons testing. And the proving ground.” Finally, Professor Liffeyt pointed out: “The United States and the West must admit that China will soon be strong if it blocks China; if it challenges China, China will quickly defeat what; and if it suppresses China, China Soon to surpass something; China's strength and rise, the United States and the West can no longer stop it.

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Sounds too sensationalist to be real.
 

BoraTas

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Can any members here confirm this to be true or just made up fake rumor? No mention in Air Force sub thread under SIGNIt & EW either. Heard about this news on youtube a few days ago discussing it so i went and did some googling today and got this source here with English translation below thru google:

In order to keep it confidential and truthfully explain the situation, all information from the U.S. military and international media is quoted here.

In the early morning of June 4, Japan’s TBS TV station suddenly interrupted the broadcast situation, saying: “Yesterday (3rd) early morning, an RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane of the U.S. Air Force took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and proceeded to the southeast coast of China. Before dawn, near the northern mouth of the Taiwan Strait, in the airspace less than 55 nautical miles from Fujian Xiapu Air Force Base in the Eastern Theater of China, he was suddenly intercepted and rounded up by three electronic counter-reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1" of the Chinese Air Force. This is the Chinese Air Force’s first appearance in the war.

The Japanese media were really dedicated, as if they were on the scene, reporting the whole process as eye-catching and clear as their own military exercises: "The situation was very urgent at the time. The U.S. Air Force’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane was in China. Under the pursuit and interception of the Air Force "Falcon 1", a very real aerial "cat and mouse game" was staged. The RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft was "throated" time and time again. All reconnaissance equipment on the aircraft failed; several times The aircraft was unable to control and fell into the sea out of control; several times it fell into a state of collapse of the navigation system. Japanese media exclaimed: "If the Taiwan Strait really does, the US military’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane has only two options, either to be captured or shot down to the sea.”

In this regard, the only official source of our “South China Sea Strategic Situational Awareness” think tank stated: “In the early morning of June 3, there was indeed a U.S. Air Force RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane that took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and secretly entered Fujian. The electronic reconnaissance in the East China Sea airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base was promptly and resolutely expelled by our Air Force fighters. As for what type of fighter planes the People's Liberation Army dispatched to expel them, I officially kept silent."

At the same time, China's official media has been very low-key, with almost no reports about the US RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft invading the airspace of the air defense identification zone near the military sensitive area of Fujian. It's just that the World Wide Web reprinted the "South China Sea Strategic Situation Awareness" news:

However, overseas media have responded strongly to this. In the past few days, media in Japan, the United States, South Korea, and the French and German media in Europe have all reported and commented on it. Especially for the first time that the Chinese Air Force deployed the mysterious anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1", and the sword was used for the first time, it severely frustrated the most advanced U.S. military RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, which caused a shock from the Western media.

On the morning of the 4th, the US military’s Global Air Defense media platform stated: “RC-135U is the most advanced reconnaissance aircraft currently in service in the US military. The biggest weapon and "housekeeper" to seize air supremacy.

However, when facing China’s "Falcon 1" yesterday, it was suddenly completely electronically suppressed. The entire aircraft was completely out of control, but the Kadena base camp, which was close at hand, did not know it.”

On the evening of the 3rd, Major Rodriguez, a spokesman for the US military at Kadena Base, reluctantly said to the media, “Before, we had almost no knowledge of China’s Falcon 1. Our intelligence agency was actually the best in China. In front of advanced weapons, he became blind and deaf. This time it was only when it flew in front of us that he suddenly knew its existence.” He added: “Even the name'Falcon 1', our intelligence department It also took a huge price to find out. As for its specific aviation technical information, we know very little."

Major Rodriguez said at the briefing: “According to the specific introduction of the pilot flying the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, we learned what happened in the early hours of yesterday. Our RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft, as usual, was at 3 Taking off in the early morning of the day, from Kadena Base to the high seas airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base in Fujian, China, for routine electronic reconnaissance flights. Their main task on this trip is still to detect the deployment of the Chinese military in the coastal areas of Fujian and Zhejiang and to detect them The deployment situation and combat performance of weapons and equipment, the frequency of collecting their electronic communication signals, and so on.

"After about an hour of flying, our RC-135U reconnaissance plane arrived in the established airspace and was preparing to carry out reconnaissance work. At this time, the pilot suddenly perceived with his naked eyes that there were three moving flying objects in the air from the top, front, and back directions. Outflank it. But what is surprising is the advent of such a serious air strike, the eyes can see, and the RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft's own anti-electronic jamming system and reconnaissance system did not respond. Everything is too late, because the other party The RC-135U has been surrounded and locked, the reconnaissance equipment has failed, the communication system has failed, the aircraft is out of control, can't move at all, the communication system has failed, the aircraft has lost control of navigation, and can't move at all. It feels like being stifled by the throat. This way. In the next flight, the situation of danger was continuously staged and appeared three times. In desperation, we followed international practice and repeatedly expressed goodwill to the Chinese military aircraft several times before the other party finally allowed our aircraft to fly out of the dangerous airspace quickly. ".

Major Rodriguez finally emphasized: "I feel like we are being teased by the other side again and again in the air like mice. At the same time, it also shows that the Chinese Air Force’s Falcon 1 is very terrible. We ate a complete one. Lost in the air. This is an extremely rare humiliation and humiliation that the U.S. Air Force has suffered since World War II."

Major Rodriguez’s briefing was quickly spread to many media around the world, and aroused international public opinion in exclamation and shock. According to the comment from the web client of South Korea's "Seoul Arms": "In the past 20 years, China's weapons and equipment have seen rapid development, just like its national strength. Especially this time, the mysterious weapon "Falcon 1" has been revealed, which is low-key. There will certainly be many weapons like the Chinese military."

The South Korean intelligence agency also issued a statement on the same day: "According to what we know, the Chinese Air Force "Falcon 1" is the world's newest and most advanced anti-electronic reconnaissance aircraft. Its main task is to target the US military's frequent attacks on China's coastal areas and Taiwan Electronic reconnaissance in the sea and the South China Sea is used for aerial countermeasures. In addition to electronic countermeasures and intelligence collection, it also has powerful anti-electronic reconnaissance functions. The most frightening thing is that it not only has the most advanced stealth and protection It also has powerful electronic coverage, electronic blocking, and electronic destruction capabilities. This is the most advanced electronic countermeasure technology in the world that has surpassed the United States and the West. This technology will directly destroy all electronic communication systems of the target aircraft. The opponent's high-altitude aircraft completely turned into a headless fly out of control."

In the afternoon of the same day, Professor Kudur Riffert from the Munich Army Military Academy, Germany, commented through the media: “According to the current technical assessment of China’s air force, the flight range and combat radius of the Falcon 1 are expected to reach 3800-4500. Kilometers. If air refueling is implemented, the farthest may exceed 8000 to 12000 kilometers. It can easily fly over the US military base in Hawaii, and even directly reach Los Angeles or San Francisco on the west coast of the US, and the US military’s existing radar cannot detect it at all. It can be said to be A stealthy and proud intercontinental aircraft."

"What a terrible weapon. China has mastered this weapon manufacturing technology before the United States and put it into combat before the United States. The United States and the United States Air Force have become the targets of China's advanced weapons testing. And the proving ground.” Finally, Professor Liffeyt pointed out: “The United States and the West must admit that China will soon be strong if it blocks China; if it challenges China, China will quickly defeat what; and if it suppresses China, China Soon to surpass something; China's strength and rise, the United States and the West can no longer stop it.

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Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
 

B.I.B.

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And you bought that?



So if you think EU, Japs and US is a gigantic market of roughly 700 million people. I guess you think China's market of 1.4 billion is a tad bit small then? For the west?



Super power India!

On the news today,

UK and Aus hail their historical trade deal!
It's becoming to look like a trade between two desperate nations.

It sort of reminded of last dance at the prom. Where everyone has partnered off, leaving the two uglies behind. And they thought, oh well, let's get together.

Scott Morrison strikes historic free trade deal between Australia and the UK with big changes ahead for Aussie farmers and expats - here's what it means for you​


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Did anyone notice this part in the article?

"
The change comes after a shocking new report seen by Daily Mail Australia showed the widespread exploitation of casual fruit and vegetable pickers in Australia, with some working up to 20 hours a day and for as little as $1 an hour.

Under Australian law, farmers do not have to pay the minimum wage to piece-rate workers, who instead get paid for the amount of fruit they pick.

Farmers say the best pickers can earn well above the minimum wage and argue the system is needed to make sure workers are not bludging on the job - but unions say it leads to exploitation and want a minimum hourly rate instead.

Mr Littleproud said farmers and leaders will 'have to think different...."

Now why aren't they being sanctioned for using slave labour?


Sixty years ago my father got paid about 50cents and hour for delivering newspapers to households on his bike before school 6 days a week.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Sixty years ago my father got paid about 50cents and hour for delivering newspapers to households on his bik

That made me feel old. But I'm sure that experience made your father what he is today.

I too did the same 40 years ago. Got up at 5am in the morning on my bike in rain and snow to deliver news paper for £1.10 per week. But that experience made me appreciate life is fill with hard work to achieve. Unlike some of the youngsters today, sadly my children included. And particularly those pampered fools in Hong Kong who can't even open a can without a can opener!
 

B.I.B.

Captain
That made me feel old. But I'm sure that experience made your father what he is today.

I too did the same 40 years ago. Got up at 5am in the morning on my bike in rain and snow to deliver news paper for £1.10 per week. But that experience made me appreciate life is fill with hard work to achieve. Unlike some of the youngsters today, sadly my children included. And particularly those pampered fools in Hong Kong who can't even open a can without a can opener!
My father reckons those were the days. It would have paid for a lot of large scoop of chips @sixpence and a piece of fish for thrupence deep fried and wrapped in newsprint and sharing it with his girlfriend as he doubled her home from school on his bike.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
Sounds too sensationalist to be real.
It read like the beginning of the 2034 novel from Staviridis and the marine operator turned journalist whose name I can't remember. Major Rodriguez sounded like he's seen a ghost or is shell shocked from the whole experience which if it was reality just on debriefing alone if he was showing that sense of unease he wouldn't have been allowed to release such statements that identifies China's PLAF superiority.

But imagine If what was written are all true then that's just amazing technical achievement by China's military industrial capability.
 

siegecrossbow

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Can any members here confirm this to be true or just made up fake rumor? No mention in Air Force sub thread under SIGNIt & EW either. Heard about this news on youtube a few days ago discussing it so i went and did some googling today and got this source here with English translation below thru google:

In order to keep it confidential and truthfully explain the situation, all information from the U.S. military and international media is quoted here.

In the early morning of June 4, Japan’s TBS TV station suddenly interrupted the broadcast situation, saying: “Yesterday (3rd) early morning, an RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane of the U.S. Air Force took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and proceeded to the southeast coast of China. Before dawn, near the northern mouth of the Taiwan Strait, in the airspace less than 55 nautical miles from Fujian Xiapu Air Force Base in the Eastern Theater of China, he was suddenly intercepted and rounded up by three electronic counter-reconnaissance aircraft "Falcon 1" of the Chinese Air Force. This is the Chinese Air Force’s first appearance in the war.

The Japanese media were really dedicated, as if they were on the scene, reporting the whole process as eye-catching and clear as their own military exercises: "The situation was very urgent at the time. The U.S. Air Force’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane was in China. Under the pursuit and interception of the Air Force "Falcon 1", a very real aerial "cat and mouse game" was staged. The RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft was "throated" time and time again. All reconnaissance equipment on the aircraft failed; several times The aircraft was unable to control and fell into the sea out of control; several times it fell into a state of collapse of the navigation system. Japanese media exclaimed: "If the Taiwan Strait really does, the US military’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane has only two options, either to be captured or shot down to the sea.”

In this regard, the only official source of our “South China Sea Strategic Situational Awareness” think tank stated: “In the early morning of June 3, there was indeed a U.S. Air Force RC-135U electronic reconnaissance plane that took off from Kadena Base in Okinawa, Japan, and secretly entered Fujian. The electronic reconnaissance in the East China Sea airspace near Xiapu Air Force Base was promptly and resolutely expelled by our Air Force fighters. As for what type of fighter planes the People's Liberation Army dispatched to expel them, I officially kept silent."

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Chinese independent media is little better (some times not) than Jai Hind media in terms of credibility. If something like this did happen, it would've been kept hush-hush and there is no way that some 2nd rate Japanese channel would've gotten wind of it.

That said, I wouldn't underestimate PLAAF's EW capabilities. A couple years back there was actual confirmed report of JMSDF scrambling dozens of F-15s to intercept a single PLAAF Y-8 (South Korea sent fighters as well).
 
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