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voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
What kind of mental gymnastic are you showing here? Do I need to remain you how the Catholic churches and boy scouts get away with rape and sexual harassment with intimidation and threats for decades.
I often disagree with him but no need to "shoot the messenger". There was some hyperbole in his post but we shouldnt become Indians and start deflecting to West's failings

Now regarding the article, this is an actual scandal which highlighted some systemic failures on the local gov. The Principal failed, the school management failed, local gov failed, parents failed. Only thing that worked here was the Police which took the (by then) allegations seriously, investigated, and uncovered the crime

IMO this is the local gov's failure, because so many independent actors failed to respond, which points to a systemic dysfunction. At least now, the local gov has committed to start fixing these issues.

I dont think the local gov can get away with it this time. It already got national media coverage in China and thus the central gov is watching over them like a hawk now.

Disappointingly, we had to have this serious crime exposed before real change could happen in these issues. Hopefully the system can get reformed now
 

horse

Colonel
Registered Member
By default, since there is no clear and obvious strategy China should take, then it defaults to the boiling the frog in a pot strategy.

USA - they printing money, something probably bad will happen later, with their economic strength half of what they were used to after the 2008 financial crisis.

Taiwan - getting smaller every passing year

the rest of the world - relations developing as best as they could, should continue with BRI and RCEP


Unless we can see evidence of the current trends in the Chinese economy and Chinese tech advances reverse themselves, then all systems are a go.

:p
 

Helius

Senior Member
Registered Member
Technically speaking those Senators don't represent the US Govt . Unless China has made an official policy of barring politicians across the World from visiting Taiwan then i don't see why China should be angry.
All i want is China to go beyond diplomatic protests. I read that China was ready to scramble jets when the UN Ambassador visit was planned. Why not do the same here and show that you mean business?
The US Senate is one of the main pillars of the Government i.e. the legislature, the body that can make and change laws. A senator i.e. a lawmaker is as representative of their own government as it gets.

If you were to say the senators don't represent the US "Administration" which is the executive branch of the Government, then you'd be technically correct. But they're most definitely representing the US Government in all conducts of an official nature regardless.
 

paullee

New Member
Registered Member
The US Senate is one of the main pillars of the Government i.e. the legislature, the body that can make and change laws. A senator i.e. a lawmaker is as representative of their own government as it gets.

If you were to say the senators don't represent the US "Administration" which is the executive branch of the Government, then you'd be technically correct. But they're most definitely representing the US Government in all conducts of an official nature regardless.

Someone posted this video a while back... it got some parts wrong (like that dude that says Apple makes it own chips etc) whilsts the ending concclusion is that if China is able to make the jump and breakthrough in time, (in next 5 to 10 years etc) that this would have backfired on the US... the other part it said was that if China takes over TW by force before US can fully set up its fabs in homeland with TSMC help (which also will gonna take some time) then its a precarious situation for US as well since that means no iphone, no F35 etc


My opinion is that US is basically emptying out TW of tech and then doing this forced tech/labor transfer with the goal of wrapping it up BEFORE 1) China can reunify TW island and 2) so that it can then do complete chip and tech embargo of China once US gets its own house in order before China can become fully self sufficient....

So this is the dynamic... time is on the American side in this case.... unless China acts sooner than they expected China to take action...

If the US Senators wants to make the decision easier for China then that is their choice... keep pushing and then eventually push too much and the calculus will change, end of the day TW is but a stones throw away from China mainland... its gonna be all that effort for naught just like the HK situation all over again
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
My opinion is that US is basically emptying out TW of tech
Yes

BEFORE 1) China can reunify TW island
don't believe Western Propaganda. China wont reunify with Taiwan anytime soon. If you follow Chinese procurements you will see that China is not interested on this, for now.

2) so that it can then do complete chip and tech embargo of China once US gets its own house in order before China
Yes

So this is the dynamic... time is on the American side in this case.... unless China acts sooner than they expected China to take action...
Yes. But Digital Yuan is IMO a big card on China's side which should be ready by the time the Americans try their usual shenanigans.

Also, don't forget that by next year China should have domestic Fabs with domestic IC equipment working on the 28nm process.

In the end would be better for China if TSMC constructed its Fabs around the world because that would make it easier for China to get Taiwan.
I mean if this happened now, no way the US and EU would accept it because their whole electronics/software/hardware etc industries would be subjected to Chinese blackmail.

So... Ironically enough, it's on China's interest for the US and even the EU to get TSMC Fabs lol
 

KYli

Brigadier
I often disagree with him but no need to "shoot the messenger". There was some hyperbole in his post but we shouldnt become Indians and start deflecting to West's failings

Now regarding the article, this is an actual scandal which highlighted some systemic failures on the local gov. The Principal failed, the school management failed, local gov failed, parents failed. Only thing that worked here was the Police which took the (by then) allegations seriously, investigated, and uncovered the crime

IMO this is the local gov's failure, because so many independent actors failed to respond, which points to a systemic dysfunction. At least now, the local gov has committed to start fixing these issues.

I dont think the local gov can get away with it this time. It already got national media coverage in China and thus the central gov is watching over them like a hawk now.

Disappointingly, we had to have this serious crime exposed before real change could happen in these issues. Hopefully the system can get reformed now
I am against generalization not against reporting shortcoming and issue. Many best and brightest in China have become teachers but they are concentrated in Shenzhen, Beijing, and Shanghai etc. And I don't think this is a problem due to not hiring the best and the brightest. The issue is more to do with China as a conservative society has elevated teachers and doctors' social status. Sometime you need to understand these people are human also so you need a system of check and balances. In Hong Kong, it has social workers to deal with such issues. Therefore, the solution might lie into impartial and independent social workers that can investigate and report such abuses to higher ups or police to deal with this kind of things.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
I am against generalization not against reporting shortcoming and issue. Many best and brightest in China have become teachers but they are concentrated in Shenzhen, Beijing, and Shanghai etc. And I don't think this is a problem due to not hiring the best and the brightest. The issue is more to do with China as a conservative society has elevated teachers and doctors' social status. Sometime you need to understand these people are human also so you need a system of check and balances. In Hong Kong, it has social workers to deal with such issues. Therefore, the solution might lie into impartial and independent social workers that can investigate and report such abuses to higher ups or police to deal with this kind of things.
Ah you were referring to the teachers thing? Yep, thats what I was meaning when i said it was hyperbole of him lol

Yeah, the very best teachers are concentrated on the Tier 1 cities because thats where the wages are higher in their profession, which unfortunately "drains" talent from the poorer regions



Sometime you need to understand these people are human also so you need a system of check and balances.
I agree with you, which is why I characterized it as a "systemic dysfunction"/failure. It was mostly the system which failed. Which is why new policies are needed.

IMO the biggest issue is that laws, and policies are created but the people dont know about them. The gov should work extra hard on raising awareness of these issues on the people, by having seminars, advertisements, having National Day on "Sexual Assault" (example) etc

Enforcement of laws and policies has been a huge problem for China historically so I am sure that the present leaders understand how important it is to have people actually know about the laws of the country
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
What kind of mental gymnastic are you showing here? Do I need to remain you how the Catholic churches and boy scouts get away with rape and sexual harassment with intimidation and threats for decades.

You know our friend is the Olympic champion of mental gymnastics here.

As I said before. If it happened in the west, it's all fine and dandy, but if it's in China. All hell needs to be paid!

I often disagree with him but no need to "shoot the messenger". There was some hyperbole in his post but we shouldnt become Indians and start deflecting to West's failings

My young friend, as I said, you're relatively new here. You've earned your captain's commission in quick time. In less than four months. So you probably won't know the history from some of our posters.

We old timers here know what certain posters are like, and trust me. @KYli here is not being unkind.

Edit:

@siegecrossbow

Yes, great isn't it. An old geezer knocked him out cold with one punch. Do you remember the video I posted of another racist fancy himself and picked on an Asian guy in the street? He too was knocked out with one punch. It seems all racist have a glass jaw! Lol.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
My young friend, as I said, you're relatively new here. You've earned your captain's commission in quick time. In less than four months. So you probably won't know the history from some of our posters.
Haha no worries mate. I know what kind of poster he is and why he posts some specific news all the time lol

But I still prefer to debate on the content of the news even if he has an agenda. This is why I jumped in on this, because the news itself was real enough, even if he put some "flavour" on top of it.

But anyway, I still prefer that these people are here so they can keep us from becoming an echo-chamber, even if he has his own agenda.
 
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