New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

ougoah

Brigadier
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lol they took NIO's idea and improved it further. NIO's 5 minute battery change and battery share system is a clever idea especially if they can guarantee battery quality which is all but certain since the company would have every interest in providing that guarantee to its customers while it is in growth phase. It's just a great bonus to the customer to not have to deal with batter degradation which still happens for EVs. I still think NIO is much more impressive than Geely. It wouldn't have so much investment and attention from abroad if it isn't. That's not saying Geely is second rate to NIO!
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
lol they took NIO's idea and improved it further. NIO's 5 minute battery change and battery share system is a clever idea especially if they can guarantee battery quality which is all but certain since the company would have every interest in providing that guarantee to its customers while it is in growth phase. It's just a great bonus to the customer to not have to deal with batter degradation which still happens for EVs. I still think NIO is much more impressive than Geely. It wouldn't have so much investment and attention from abroad if it isn't. That's not saying Geely is second rate to NIO!
@ougoah Sir, Its a good thing that Geely follow NIO concept then it will become mainstream as other EV manufacturer will do the same. By collective standardization it will benefit the whole EV market boosting sales even more.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
With a fossil fuel car, if you run out of gas, you could take a small jerry can and hop on a cab to the nearest petrol station for small fill-up that would last tenths of kms. With an EV, a detachable battery the size of a small briefcase could serve the same purpose. Preferably, the battery is designed to a universal standard so that any passing EV could loan to you as a favor.
Generally, the batteries in these cars are locked so that only the manufacturer can service it because the charge could kill or maim you if you mess up changing it.

I like the solution at lot and 1 minute down from 5 minutes in extremely significant because the line that will form outside these things can be quite significant. If there are 5 cars in front of you, it's the difference between 5 min and 25 min.

The challenges I see are:

1. Cost. How much is it to maintain that building-sized machine? That needs to be passed on to the consumer during battery changes.

2. Space. A small building-sized facility can only get 1 car at a time. In the same space, you could put like 18 gas pumps. You can stack a few on top of each other and add car elevators on the outside.

I see the most potential to this being a supplement to at home charging. Meaning that most people going from work to home and on errands should be charging their batteries at home but if you are on a road trip or forgot to charge up/electricity outage in your area, you can come here. Otherwise, with the car density in China's major cities, even with a major build-out of these stations, the lines might be terrible and wrap around the parking lot.
 

voyager1

Captain
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lol they took NIO's idea and improved it further. NIO's 5 minute battery change and battery share system is a clever idea especially if they can guarantee battery quality which is all but certain since the company would have every interest in providing that guarantee to its customers while it is in growth phase. It's just a great bonus to the customer to not have to deal with batter degradation which still happens for EVs. I still think NIO is much more impressive than Geely. It wouldn't have so much investment and attention from abroad if it isn't. That's not saying Geely is second rate to NIO!
Agreed that NIO is more impressive than Geely. Their station though is much better, than NIO's new generation of station.

It baffles me that NIO didn't radically iterate their concept in a similar direction as Geely did. The improvements are obvious even for common people to see. Strange decision by NIO
 
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