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[Temstar]

You have no grip on the reality of South Korea. There is no such thing as a brotherly love between China and SK, period. South Koreans are more anti-China and China-resistant than Australians/Americans/Indians ever are in terms of the general populace and media.

S. Korea is an extremely (pretty much the most) homogenous, closed and insulated society and they live in their own version of the world and it is incompatible with the outside world. They don't get along with any of its neighbors. S. Korea can't coexist with N. Korea, can't coexist with Japan, can't coexist with China, can't coexist with SE Asia. Period.

Since ancient time? SK is no Choson or Koryo. It's an artificial and undeserved creation of post world war 2 by the US as part of neutralization of defeated Japan.

When did Japan invaded it? Did Japan invade it continuously throughout the history? No. China had plenty of time but why assimilation never happend in the long history? The Japanese mistakenly thought that they could assimilated them by treating them as the same people and they are paying the price. Don't repeat the same mistake.

It is very strange that S. Korea always gets spared by neighboring powers and maintains mistakenly favorable image.

I think there are two reasons for that:
1. S. Korea is a small minor country in the middle of great powers. So S. Korea is always viewed less of a threat in front of bigger powers and the powers want to have S. Korea in the middle on their side to counter their bigger, more serious enemies.

Japan has supported S. Korea to counter China, N. Korea and the Soviet.
The US supports S. Korea to counter Japan, North Korea, and China.
China supports S. Korea to counter Japan and the US.
The rest of the world is nervous about China's growing power so supports smaller, less dangerous S. Korea as an alternative, while China supports S. Korea because S. Korea looks less attached to the US than Japan is to the US.
S. Korea gets favorable treatment by all parties because of their position, not because they deserve it.

2. S. Korea is such a minor, less important country so always gets little attention. Few foreigners are interested in and seriously study about S. Korea (aside from sugarcoated k-pop and k-drama fans etc). Few foreign journalists live in S. Korea to report coverage, and Korean is a minor language only spoken by Koreans (in contrast to major languages like English, Chinese, Japanese and Chinese-speaking Taiwanese and English-speaking Indians) and language barrier is very high and very few people understand the Korean language and know what's said among Koreans. That's why I say S. Korea is very insulated from outsiders. The raw reality of S. Korea less likely gets out and catches little attention outside. People outside only see the sugarcoated k-pop images that S. Koreans want to show to others.

Korea has always operated on the principle that they should tag along with a larger power, weather that's China, Japan or the US. But it's more nuanced than that.

You can already see South Korea is so far determined to not get involved between the grand chess game between China and the US. Rest assure they can see very clearly China is on the rise again and look to overtake the US in the future, so going by their guiding political principle they should switch their allegiance from US to China to get early bird discount. So why haven't they?

The reason is really simple: the people among the political class who will benefit from being a Chinese protectorate are not necessarily the same people who current benefits by being a US protectorate.

We saw this happen many hundreds of years ago when Zhu Yuanzhang's rebellion destroyed the Yuan Dynasty and replaced it with the Ming Dynasty. For quite a while Korea refused to acknowledge the new emperor and remained loyal to the non-existing Yuan. For average Korean it makes no sense right? What do they care who sits on the throne in China thousands of kilometres away as long as the new dynasty treat Korea the same as previous? Well if you're a Korean nobility who have accumulated political capital with the Mongol elites via intermarriage and so on it does matter. For them even if they managed to maintain cohesion among themselves and not have any of them break rank and welcome the Han Chinese there still will be people with political ambition watching and calculating from the side lines. Sure enough after a rousing round of political intrigue a new gang of social elite came into being in Korea and they promptly declared for Ming Dynasty.

Japan is facing this exact same issue (even though unlike Korea they've not always been protectorate of someone in their history). The ruling elite in Japan are directly descended from Imperial Japan. They know that China considers all of them to have Chinese blood on their hand and will not welcome them into a new Chinese dominated world order. They currently maintain group loyalty with symbolism like visits to Yasukuni Shrine to show each other that they're all in this together. But who's to say there wouldn't be some among them who will break rank, renounce their history in order to gain admittance into the new world order? Even if they managed to maintain group loyalty, can they really be sure a new social elite wouldn't then rise and do away with them? (violently, if necessary)

 

[voyager1]

A year ago
No words...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1218695856553189377

 

[Temstar]

A year ago
No words...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1218695856553189377

China is genociding cancer cells!

 

[Gatekeeper]

We all know what the West wants from China now. History seems to be repeating
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Welcome back @voyager1 I know you been lock up for a while. The imagine above already been posted on post 12312

You are right. That's because the world is still under the same capitalist system, where the imperialist powers plunder the oppressed countries. The same systemic order is mirrored in individual capitalist countries, with the ruling capitalist class plunder the oppressed masses.

The difference is that cracks are appearing in such capitalist world order, with China and couple of more countries escaped (too bad the USSR was sold out from within). There are also cracks inside those capitalist powers, with the oppressed masses demanding their rights.

Such oppressive international and domestic order breeds crisis, and the crisis are getting more and more acute, and may burst into flames and even explosion. The order may not last another 120 years...

It's amazing how much time has move on yet! Nothing changes. The same arrogant western hypocrisy, together with their lackies, their dominions like the OZ, India and Japan towards China

Gee, it's a good job China is not the same as it was 120 years ago.

Not only double standard but actively moving the goalposts whenever they feel like it.

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Lying media has no shame.

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Don't you love this, the more she speaks, the more she exposed herself as a mere sock puppet of the western propaganda machine, she is no different to all those NGOs like Armnesty international, human right watch. Etc. All tools if western propaganda machine.

 

[ansy1968]

Korea has always operated on the principle that they should tag along with a larger power, weather that's China, Japan or the US. But it's more nuanced than that.

You can already see South Korea is so far determined to not get involved between the grand chess game between China and the US. Rest assure they can see very clearly China is on the rise again and look to overtake the US in the future, so going by their guiding political principle they should switch their allegiance from US to China to get early bird discount. So why haven't they?

The reason is really simple: the people among the political class who will benefit from being a Chinese protectorate are not necessarily the same people who current benefits by being a US protectorate.

We saw this happen many hundreds of years ago when Zhu Yuanzhang's rebellion destroyed the Yuan Dynasty and replaced it with the Ming Dynasty. For quite a while Korea refused to acknowledge the new emperor and remained loyal to the non-existing Yuan. For average Korean it makes no sense right? What do they care who sits on the throne in China thousands of kilometres away as long as the new dynasty treat Korea the same as previous? Well if you're a Korean nobility who have accumulated political capital with the Mongol elites via intermarriage and so on it does matter. For them even if they managed to maintain cohesion among themselves and not have any of them break rank and welcome the Han Chinese there still will be people with political ambition watching and calculating from the side lines. Sure enough after a rousing round of political intrigue a new gang of social elite came into being in Korea and they promptly declared for Ming Dynasty.

Japan is facing this exact same issue (even though unlike Korea they've not always been protectorate of someone in their history). The ruling elite in Japan are directly descended from Imperial Japan. They know that China considers all of them to have Chinese blood on their hand and will not welcome them into a new Chinese dominated world order. They currently maintain group loyalty with symbolism like visits to Yasukuni Shrine to show each other that they're all in this together. But who's to say there wouldn't be some among them who will break rank, renounce their history in order to gain admittance into the new world order? Even if they managed to maintain group loyalty, can they really be sure a new social elite wouldn't then rise and do away with them? (violently, if necessary)

@Temstar bro nice summary, thru history if you wanted a peaceful meaningful change, need one of the personality/family/group inside the ruling elites to break ranks. That is what the CIA had been doing either thru a coup or regime changes color revolution and a perfect example is the Phil 1986 EDSA revolution, without Ramos and Enrile (both serves as Marcos PC Chief and Defense Secretary) breaking ranks with the Marcos, the PEOPLE POWER REVOLUTION will never happen.

 

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Not a week goes by without a mass shooting in the greatest democrazy on earth lol
My apologize beforehand if i offend any sdf us based members but i really want to know how can you guys not be nervous of going outside in this anti-China climate, knowing that everybody is potentially carrying weapons and some of them are just like a time bombs waiting to explode

 

[horse]

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Not a week goes by without a mass shooting in the greatest democrazy on earth lol
My apologize beforehand if i offend any sdf us based members but i really want to know how can you guys not be nervous of going outside in this anti-China climate, knowing that everybody is potentially carrying weapons and some of them are just like a time bombs waiting to explode

I am not an American, but every time I had visited America, I had a great time!

The Americans are great! They are friendly, they are willing to help strangers, they are open and willing to talk to you about anything.

They told me, once while I was in Washington DC, do not go north or south of H street, forget the direction, but H street. The reason is crime, that is very violent place, to avoid.

That is how to survive in America. It is a great place to make all the money you try to make, but know how to survive, which is to avoid the high crime areas, and violent people.

That is why I feel America always has the world's attention. Americans are the best advertisers for America, and I really think the American people are a great people. However, there are some intractable problems that blow up, to put it mildly.

The biggest day to day problem is the violence in urban areas. But, if you stay alert and be careful, one should be able to avoid problems.

I been to America, and walked those means streets, and often I was lost, ask directions, at day or night, and never had a problem. America is a fun place.

But the violence is real, that we have to be aware of.

 

[horse]

I only had been to Las Vegas once in my life.

While there, I took the bus up and down the Las Vegas strip, and walked everywhere.

In the day, on that bus, I noticed a young girl, who was there with her 5 kids. She was riding the bus with her 5 kids in the two seater slot.

It looked kind of odd.

Then the next I was on the same bus, and the same young girl was there on the bus with her 5 kids. Then I though, wait a minute, is she really taking care of her kids on a bus?

Then a couple of days later, I was on that same Las Vegas bus during the day, and there she was there again, the young girl with her 5 kids riding on the bus. Her kids were well behaved, but I really wonder why she always on that public transportation bus with her 5 kids!

 

[horse]

This is what they told me, while in America, some other time.

If you are Chinese, then someone is gonna think about robbing you, because, as the sterotype goes, guess who carries around a lot of cash because we like gambling!

So ... this is what you do ..

You have two sets of money. A small set of bills, and a large set of bills. So when you get robbed, god forbid, you just give the robber the small set of bills.

Okay, the person telling this story, was the wife. The husband got robbed one day. They wanted his money and he was prepared, as he had both of his sets of bills, the small set and the big set. But then he panic or got scared, and by mistake he got it wrong, gave the robber the large set of bills.

Ai ya!

It's kind of funny because he lived to tell about it.

That's life in America.

 

[ansy1968]

I am not an American, but every time I had visited America, I had a great time!

The Americans are great! They are friendly, they are willing to help strangers, they are open and willing to talk to you about anything.

They told me, once while I was in Washington DC, do not go north or south of H street, forget the direction, but H street. The reason is crime, that is very violent place, to avoid.

That is how to survive in America. It is a great place to make all the money you try to make, but know how to survive, which is to avoid the high crime areas, and violent people.

That is why I feel America always has the world's attention. Americans are the best advertisers for America, and I really think the American people are a great people. However, there are some intractable problems that blow up, to put it mildly.

The biggest day to day problem is the violence in urban areas. But, if you stay alert and be careful, one should be able to avoid problems.

I been to America, and walked those means streets, and often I was lost, ask directions, at day or night, and never had a problem. America is a fun place.

But the violence is real, that we have to be aware of.

@horse bro you're correct, I had a funny incident so bear with me bro...hehehe, been exploring downtown L.A with my wife and her sister when a huge African American woman (nearly 6ft tall and at maybe 300 pounds plus) approaches us and beg to have a dollar, I startled , instead of giving her a dollar I gave her $10....LOL bro I never been so shock in my life I thought we're being rob. I'm 5ft 8inches but boy she's big.