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windsclouds2030

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Hey guys, I need an evidence for riots 2009 where Han Chinese were massacred by Uighurs. I were looking on liveleak or google for riots videos, where Uighurs were attacking Han civilians but somehow the videos disappeared.

I have a discussion and some people claim that Han Chinese started it, I disagree, overwhelming casualties by Han Chinese says otherwise.
I don't have the specific short clip that you requested. I once saw such clips in twitter but didn't keep the links, but search things in twitter is nearly impossible, a daunting task :)

Here's the info on the CGTN's four documentaries incl. the latest one on the terrorism, extremism and radicalism in Xinjiang!



THE WAR IN THE SHADOWS: Challenges of Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang - Info & VIDEOS 20210402

#4 (the latest one) Watch: The War in the Shadows: Challenges of Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang


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With unprecedented transparency, this 60-minute film reveals the reasons behind terrorism in Xinjiang from inside of the region. It has exposed for the first time the cases of the "Two-faced" men within the high-ranking officials, and the "problem textbooks" used regionwide. This documentary has also been given unprecedented access to the heart of the region's counter-terrorism organizations. It contains footage never released before.

Producer's Notebook: Challenges of Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang
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We present you with the FIRST THREE DOCUMENTARIES — each under an hour — below.

#1 Watch: Fighting terrorism in Xinjiang
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#2 Watch: The black hand — ETIM and terrorism in Xinjiang
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#3 Watch: Tianshan: Still standing – Memories of fighting terrorism in Xinjiang
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You may also WATCH “The War in the Shadows: Challenges of Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang” at Youtube, as well as the other three earlier documentaries (just search or read the CGTN's description there for referred links):

Premiered Apr 2, 2021


XINJIANG, IN THE FAR WESTERN LAND OF CHINA, hosted one of the world's first and most important trade routes known as the SILK ROAD, which linked ancient Chinese civilization to the West through the EURASIAN CONTINENT.

The land of fortune, however, has not always enjoyed tranquility. Thousands of terrorist attacks from 1990 through 2016 killed large numbers of innocent people and hundreds of police officers. Horrific stabbings and bombings rocked the land, leaving its people in shock, grief and panic. The damage was incalculable while stability in the region quickly deteriorated. Authorities have been trying hard to restore peace to this land.

In CGTN's FIRST THREE documentaries on fighting terrorism in Xinjiang, we presented never-before-seen footage documenting the frightening tragedies in Xinjiang and the resilience of its people.

THE FOURTH exposé "The war in the shadows: Challenges of fighting terrorism in Xinjiang" – the last of the teratology – exposes the extremist thinking and the challenges facing China's efforts to tackle terrorism inside and outside of Xinjiang.

It gives answers to these questions: WHY has violent terrorism continued to plague Xinjiang? For those who were once known as "Two-faced people" among the legal and political elites in Xinjiang, how much damage have they done to anti-terrorism efforts in the region? How come POISONOUS EDUCATION MATERIALS alleging ethnic victimization and "Turkic heroes" have been used for 13 years in primary and middle schools? Why must we stop the INVISIBLE HAND of foreign advocacy alleging violent terrorism INFILTRATING China?

The documentary reveals the METHODS USED by extremist and separatist forces including the "Two-faced people" within the region's high-ranking officials, as well as HOW MUSIC AND VIDEOS advocating for violent terrorism and inciting ethnic hatred penetrated the region. Plus, it also tells of the very hardship police officers have been mired in for decades.

OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, violence has largely been contained, giving way to rapid urbanization and economic growth. SAFETY AND TRANQUILITY NEVER COME EASY. But it's only a preliminary victory in China's fight against terrorism.

The film is 55 minutes long and consists of four parts: "The network," "Enemies within," "The textbooks," and "The black hands."
 

Mr T

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Now you tell us, when Chinese coast guard ship chasing the fish boat with the Japanese coast guard ship in between, is the Japanese coast guard ship being chased as well? If not, what is chasing? I am running after you, and you are not being chased? That will be a funny logic.
The Chinese coastguard vessel pursued the Japanese fishing vessel. The objective was to board the Japanese fishing vessel. The Japanese coastguard vessel interceded to stop the Chinese coastguard vessel boarding it. Given the Japanese fishing vessel was in motion, the Japanese coastguard vessel could only protect it by equally being in motion and between it and the Chinese ship.

If we applied your logic, then when the Royal Navy shadows Russian ships through the English Channel it's actually chasing them, and the Russians are running away.

What's you're suggesting is that the two Japanese ships should have anchored and just sat there uselessly to avoid the impression they were running away. Fishing ships have to return to port at some point, especially smaller ones - not every fishing vessel is a huge trawler at sea for months at a time. Their crews want to return to their families. It's an economic operation, not a political one.
Chinese coast guard ship was in the territorial water before the fish boat arrived, true or not, doesn't an official police presence in the territorial water a signature of "administration"?
That's not how territoriality works. If it was, China could claim every small island in the world by sailing vessels around them and saying "see, country X hasn't sent any ships to force us out, therefore it's ours".

Second, I've not read a single article that says Japanese ships are unable to sail into the vicinity of the Senkaku Islands because of Chinese patrols. You've mentioned one article that says one fishing vessel was chased by a Chinese coastguard ship. That's not evidence of anything. The article also says the fishermen will continue to fish around the islands despite what the Chinese are trying to do.

There was an article from the
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a week ago that said there had been 11 incursions into Japanese waters in 2021. That's not demonstrating sovereignty given the vast majority of the time there is no Chinese prescence around the islands.

The only way that Japan can reject the Chinese statement is to have its coast guard ship remain in the water before Chinese ship leave, but Japan did not do so.
As I've said clearly repeatedly, the objective was to escort the fishing vessel. It wasn't to engage in some stupid faceoff with the Chinese ships.

You've also made an assumption. The article doesn't talk about the Japanese coastguard's wider movements. Other coastguard vessels could have waited until their Chinese counterparts left.

Also, if the Chinese coastguard has nothing better to do than sit in one place, that's nothing to do with the Japanese. Perhaps the Chinese coastguards had all got rocky marriages and prefer being at sea than going home.
 

KYli

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So Western countries can sanction Chinese and Chinese companies but when it is the other around they cried and bitched about it.
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It is just absurd that these Westernized and Christianized South Koreans are so sensitive about this kind of things.
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It is wrong in so many ways that I don't want to spend my time to refute her. But these journalists need to stop writing garbage.
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Kaeshmiri

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So Western countries can sanction Chinese and Chinese companies but when it is the other around they cried and bitched about it.
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Them moaning and bitching about it shouldn't come as a surprise. Sanctions are a foreign concept to Westerners. Till now sanctions have been largely imposed on black and brown countries. This is the first time Western organizations are coming under fire.

It'll take some time but eventually they'll be forced to digest the fact that the World doesn't revolve around them anymore.
 

windsclouds2030

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So Western countries can sanction Chinese and Chinese companies but when it is the other around they cried and bitched about it.
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It is just absurd that these Westernized and Christianized South Koreans are so sensitive about this kind of things.
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It is wrong in so many ways that I don't want to spend my time to refute her. But these journalists need to stop writing garbage.
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Hit where it really matters, their pockets!

China is learning some tricks from the US' playbook by applying such long-arm sanctions!

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UK lawyers feel ripples of Chinese sanctions on Essex Court Chambers

The Financial Times via California News Times - 05 April 2021

When Beijing imposed sanctions on ESSEX BARRISTERS, a group of prominent barristers practiced from there, but it wasn’t just AT THE HEART of the UK LEGAL SYSTEM. It also won the battle to put pressure on international business to ease domestic issues, especially criticisms of policies against the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

Lawyers say sanctions could affect China against anyone the company chooses to assign to international arbitration. Lawyers may also reconsider directing ASIAN WORK to ESSEX COURTS, which specialize in commercial and financial proceedings, arbitration, and international public law.

Analysts also warned that it could lead to self-censorship in the UK legal industry, and companies and chambers of commerce are wary of relationships with people who work for groups and individuals who are critical of China, are doing.

Barrister Helena Kennedy, a prominent barrister imposed by Beijing, said: Sanctions at the same time as the Essex Court.

China Announce sanctions “Significant interference” with comments from many British parliamentarians, scholars and individuals alongside the Essex Court at the end of last month on the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, which has housed more than one million Uighurs and other Muslims since 2017. Blame.

The move freezes China-based assets of targeted people, prohibiting designated people and their families to enter China, including Macau and Hong Kong, and to trade with Chinese individuals and groups.

China has not specified whether all barristers in Essex Court will be affected and why they were targeted. However, four of the Chamber of Commerce barristers had previously given legal views to non-profit clients suggesting that China was involved in the GENOCIDE in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

China has denied implementing GENOCIDE and instead states that it is providing “vocational education” in areas where it states it is facing the threat of terrorism.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER the sanctions were announced, the Essex Court deleted the news item. We have issued a statement about the opinions from the website and calling for the majority of its members to stay away from the advice. “The other members of the Essex Court Chambers were not involved in or responsible for the advice,” Chambers said.

The Chinese mass media welcomed the reaction. “The retreating barrister is lying to the Uighurs,” read a headline in the China Daily.

China is pressing global companies which boycott cotton produced in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region because of rights issues such as H & M and Nike [plus Adidas, Gap, Fila, New Balance, Zara, Under Armour, Burberry]. However, few expected such tactics to apply to British statutory agencies.

“It’s breathtakingly obvious,” said the head of an international law firm in Hong Kong about the sanctions of the Essex Court. “This is the long arm of the government interfering with other countries.”

Essex Court Chambers in Holborn, London, is home to a group of prominent lawyers, some of whom are involved in rights activities © Google

“Today, it is the members of the Essex Court who are being sanctioned,” wrote Guy Sandhurst QC, a former president of Bar in England and Wales, on the website of the Conservation Bar Association. “But tomorrow, Clifford Chance, Freshfields, and other major city law firms, or barrister’s rooms, could deliberately or otherwise offend the Chinese state.”

British barrister Alan Bates said LAWYERS MAY NOW BE MORE CAUTIOUS about providing legal assistance to organizations that are critical of China and hurt their colleagues’ work in their words. He said he was aware of that. “People may be willing to bear the cost to themselves [but] When it costs a colleague, they may rethink it, “he said.

A barrister at a rival British Chamber of Commerce said he had already been told NOT TO SPEAK PUBLICLY on the matter while the Essex Court was deciding how to respond. “I mourn it,” he said. “I don’t think you’re dealing with bullying by cave exploration.”

FEW chambers of commerce have issued statements in support of the chamber of commerce. Individuals within the Essex Court told the Financial Times that they suspected that other chambers of commerce did not want to “throw themselves into the firing line,” but warned that they might not be immune.

“The Essex Court is the first series of chambers of commerce subject to these sanctions … but that may not be the last.”

Derek Sweeting, chair of the UK Bar Council, described China’s move as an “attack on the rule of law.”

PRIOR TO SANCTIONS, the ESSEX COURT had more than 90 barristers, including the Singapore branch, and 44 Queen’s counsel lawyers. HOWEVER, WITHIN TWO DAYS of the announcement of the sanctions, Jern-Fei Ng QC, an international arbitrator with experience in Asia, LEFT the Chamber of Commerce and joined 7 Bedford Row. This move was considered unusual because the Chamber of Commerce is not as well known in commercial arbitration as his previous base.

FOLLOWING THIS, THE SINGAPORE BRANCH of Essex Court, including QC Toby Landow and former Attorney General VK Raja, was COMPLETELY DISSOLVED and its members said they would apply for the establishment of a new chamber of commerce. Landow is also expected to leave the London Chamber of Commerce, according to people familiar with the matter. He did not respond to requests for comment.

A barrister at the rival chamber of commerce said in the Caribbean that sanctions were not only arbitration between Hong Kong and Singapore involving Chinese companies, but the ultimate beneficiaries of some of the companies involved were Hong Kong businessmen. He said there were concerns that could affect legal work.

Matthew Gearing, chairman of the Hong Kong International Arbitration Center, who recently resigned, was expected to join the Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Essex Court, but told the Financial Times last week that he was “MONITORING THE SITUATION.”

There is already talk in the room of POACHING RIVALS among the top sets. “This is a PHYSICAL BLOW to a highly established set of rooms as a form of COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT,” said one British lawyer.

“The problem with the ESSEX COURT is that they are very well utilized in the international market and a significant proportion of their work is CHINESE,” said another chamber of commerce person. “They are market leaders in all chambers of commerce in building practices IN ASIA, and their impact will be potentially significant. DAMAGE HAS OCCURRED and barristers in Singapore have left. There will be more casualties.”

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windsclouds2030

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Not sure if you've read the article correctly. It said - as far as I can see - that the Japanese coastguard interceded to protect a fishing vessel from the Chinese coastguard. Given that there is no one living on the Senkakus, that fishing vessel was by definition based elsewhere and as such when it was time to go home the Japanese coastguard had to leave the vicinity to escort it to safer waters.

I mean if this is some way to pretend that China is currently administering the islands instead of Japan....
Keep on watching for longer time span then you'll know which side control the islands de facto.

It's very tough for Japanese to keep the looted property owned by China's Qing Dynasty through the gunboat-dictated 1895 Shimonoseki Treaty, even though they may have the US backup. Today China is not only a much bigger and stronger nation, also its gunboat is bigger than the Japanese one.

I just don't see how Japan can defend the illegal asset when they're lesser in every aspect, even the geography of Diaoyu Islands is closer to mainland China than Okinawa. Japan may have some chance if the USA is really willing to go war for them, but that kind of thing needs real actions and not only words! Time is surely on the Chinese side!

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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Sery Kim is now suing for $10 million because she claims the newspaper that first reported her quotes attacking all Chinese that has been recorded on video was misrepresented by the newspaper when what she really meant to say was the Chinese Communist Party. She's going by the Trump excuse of "Don't believe what your own lying eyes and ears are telling you."
 
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