Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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j17wang

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Now all we need is the San Andreas fault and that super volcano to go off and then we shall see if they are smart enough to fix that crisis. By making the USA into. Xenophobic nation we surely ensure that no Chinese people will lose sleep if the empire when up in smoke and this stupid behaviour in regards to these scientist (that the USA is driving away because they think they are smart) is going to give a strong incentive that it is probably better to ensure in the untrue beyond that the USA is to be complete destroyed before the world ca no peace since all the USA is good for is evil and nothing more. This talk about diversity being the strength of the USA, what a joke since they want slaves, not real thinkers
Always remember to multiply the horrors of the holocaust, with 6 million dead souls, and by over 20x to the get the 140 million aboriginal deaths required to conquer the territories of north america for the imperium. I'm not going to legitimize the US by calling it a state or even an empire, I don't think any empire, including that of genghis khan required 140 million deaths to create.
 

quantumlight

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Now all we need is the San Andreas fault and that super volcano to go off and then we shall see if they are smart enough to fix that crisis. By making the USA into. Xenophobic nation we surely ensure that no Chinese people will lose sleep if the empire when up in smoke and this stupid behaviour in regards to these scientist (that the USA is driving away because they think they are smart) is going to give a strong incentive that it is probably better to ensure in the untrue beyond that the USA is to be complete destroyed before the world ca no peace since all the USA is good for is evil and nothing more. This talk about diversity being the strength of the USA, what a joke since they want slaves, not real thinkers

It makes me happy to read stuff like this that you type but in all honestly that super volcano that you are talking about won't go off until another 10,000 years, so for all intents and purposes its never gonna happen... (even TheLongNow Clock won't last 10000 years anymore they gave up on that project after 10 years lol)

Recall back during the height of the so-called Trade War, the US point of contention was of the many demands, it wanted China to write into law that forbade it to do the so-called "forced tech transfer" scheme.... Now, China was never stealing from any US companies under this, it was always if you want access to China market, here are the stipulations take it or leave it. China never had the power to force any US company to accept those terms etc... So if anything, US should be passing a law that forbid their companies from entering into any such agreements, but US instead wanted China to change its own laws, and from their laundry list of demands it was almost like the US wanted the ability to write a Constitution for China and to set China's internal laws too... This is complete lack of respect for the second most powerful nation in the world.... not to mention just a plain old lack of regard for another countries sovereignty, period... but I guess the US in its arrogance had gotten used to writing other countries Constitution and laws for them, like MacArthur did for Japan after US dropped two nukes on them... but the last time I checked the US don't have military bases inside of China and US would be hard pressed to drop any nukes on China without at least the top ten of their own cities getting glassed too... So its amazing how they still try their old MO that worked against Japan onto China, Trump was certain Xi would fold and agree to Plaza Accord 2.0 and it would be easy win for him.
 

quantumlight

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Always remember to multiply the horrors of the holocaust, with 6 million dead souls, and by over 20x to the get the 140 million aboriginal deaths required to conquer the territories of north america for the imperium. I'm not going to legitimize the US by calling it a state or even an empire, I don't think any empire, including that of genghis khan required 140 million deaths to create.

This is the natural course of things when there is such power discrepancy in close juxtaposition... not saying what the US did was right, of course it was unethical genocide and extermination... but it was pretty much bound the happen... same fate happened to China during the Eight Nation Alliances when the China was just no match military compared to the Western powers

The lesson learned here and the takeaway is that in the end it all comes down to power. Might makes right, and the victory writes the history books (or in this case CIA edits the wikipedia pages) and everything else is lip service and retroactive justifications... just imagine if China didn't have nukes today, ShenZhen would have ended up as The Trump Concession...

By the very definition the US is an empire, regardless of whether or not it did evil stuffs. You don't become an empire without subjugating others.... Through compared to other empires, it seems only 30 years after the fall of USSR, the US itself has eroded quite quickly....
 

emblem21

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It makes me happy to read stuff like this that you type but in all honestly that super volcano that you are talking about won't go off until another 10,000 years, so for all intents and purposes its never gonna happen... (even TheLongNow Clock won't last 10000 years anymore they gave up on that project after 10 years lol)

Recall back during the height of the so-called Trade War, the US point of contention was of the many demands, it wanted China to write into law that forbade it to do the so-called "forced tech transfer" scheme.... Now, China was never stealing from any US companies under this, it was always if you want access to China market, here are the stipulations take it or leave it. China never had the power to force any US company to accept those terms etc... So if anything, US should be passing a law that forbid their companies from entering into any such agreements, but US instead wanted China to change its own laws, and from their laundry list of demands it was almost like the US wanted the ability to write a Constitution for China and to set China's internal laws too... This is complete lack of respect for the second most powerful nation in the world.... not to mention just a plain old lack of regard for another countries sovereignty, period... but I guess the US in its arrogance had gotten used to writing other countries Constitution and laws for them, like MacArthur did for Japan after US dropped two nukes on them... but the last time I checked the US don't have military bases inside of China and US would be hard pressed to drop any nukes on China without at least the top ten of their own cities getting glassed too... So its amazing how they still try their old MO that worked against Japan onto China, Trump was certain Xi would fold and agree to Plaza Accord 2.0 and it would be easy win for him.
True. One can only dream at times but realistically. The USA isn’t going to recover from its current crisis anytime soon and with there lacklustre way that Biden is handling things now, that’s are going to get progressively worse
 

B.I.B.

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True. One can only dream at times but realistically. The USA isn’t going to recover from its current crisis anytime soon and with there lacklustre way that Biden is handling things now, that’s are going to get progressively worse
Rudd thinks Xi and therefore yourself have got it wrong.

".........Both sides have worrying blindspots. As usual, the US is convinced that it is wholly in the right, morally and otherwise. For his part, says former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, Xi firmly believes “that the US is experiencing a steady, irreversible structural decline”. Both are wrong – and their errors could prove calamitous.........."

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Rudd thinks Xi and therefore yourself have got it wrong.

".........Both sides have worrying blindspots. As usual, the US is convinced that it is wholly in the right, morally and otherwise. For his part, says former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, Xi firmly believes “that the US is experiencing a steady, irreversible structural decline”. Both are wrong – and their errors could prove calamitous.........."

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Hi @B.I.B. I think Rudd even though a Sino centric his point of view is always that of the West particular the US, since its audiences are them (he live and work in America). You can see it for yourself in NZ the actual event happening and you can make an early judgment of who is doing right. From my perspective being an Oversea Chinese Filipino , what the CCP want is to be left alone not to be bother by this petty noises. They have a lot of problems to be taken care of domestically to improve the life of the ordinary Chinese and are investing for the future. Now you see the difference policy wise between the two countries and from what I see the US is the one I'm most concern about especially the nonchalant way they address the issue, they're in for a big trouble ahead.
 
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emblem21

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Rudd thinks Xi and therefore yourself have got it wrong.

".........Both sides have worrying blindspots. As usual, the US is convinced that it is wholly in the right, morally and otherwise. For his part, says former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, Xi firmly believes “that the US is experiencing a steady, irreversible structural decline”. Both are wrong – and their errors could prove calamitous.........."

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Problem is that Rudd thinks that by knowing how to speak Chinese make you an expert on China. But that is far from true. Nowadays, who even bothers to listen to him and given that many areas of the USA, in regards to the economy, the dollar, the pandemic amounts to other are under heavy strain and there only solution is to essentially print trillions of dollars, Xi may have a good point there.
Also to consider that Biden did axe thousand of jobs in regards to that pipeline so there is that, he really isn’t off to a good start no matter how rosy a picture the media paints, the number of job loses hasn’t slowed at all
 

quantumlight

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Rudd thinks Xi and therefore yourself have got it wrong.

".........Both sides have worrying blindspots. As usual, the US is convinced that it is wholly in the right, morally and otherwise. For his part, says former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, Xi firmly believes “that the US is experiencing a steady, irreversible structural decline”. Both are wrong – and their errors could prove calamitous.........."

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Rudds really saying America can regain the momemtum and upper hand if its willing to do whatever it takes, however immoral, to beat China... and that China by its self improsed rules like nonintervention will severly handicap its options thereby giving the US the chance to contain/erase China... Rudds saying Xi is wrong in his analysis because is naive and overlooks the extent America is willing to go to destroy China...

Yet some people still think 300 nukes is enough for China
 

bajingan

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Rudd thinks Xi and therefore yourself have got it wrong.

".........Both sides have worrying blindspots. As usual, the US is convinced that it is wholly in the right, morally and otherwise. For his part, says former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, Xi firmly believes “that the US is experiencing a steady, irreversible structural decline”. Both are wrong – and their errors could prove calamitous.........."

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the us is in decline though that alone is irrefutable fact, if you look at their economy, infrastructure, socioeconomic, political instability and even demography, if those are not signs of decline i don't know what is

Decades ago you wouldn't even imagine eu and japan goes directly against washington orders not to sign an agreements thats against american interests
 

quantumlight

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the us is in decline though that alone is irrefutable fact, if you look at their economy, infrastructure, socioeconomic, political instability and even demography, if those are not signs of decline i don't know what is

Decades ago you wouldn't even imagine eu and japan goes directly against washington orders not to sign an agreements thats against american interests
Im an old man now but I still remember back in the golden days when I was kid wanted to get my Dad to get me a cheaper computer running Cyrix CPU which is intel clone...
Back then Cryrix had Texas Instruments fabricate its chips...

Fast forward ~20 years later and even Intel throws in the towel and gave up to TSMC

And as for TI, who still uses dedicated graphical calculators these days?


Biden is wrong, USA will not OWN the 21st century ...
 
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