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Blitzo

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Is Mi-26 55 ton?

Also about the list, that is an absolutely insane number of new projects. Can anyone verify this users trustworthiness?

If true, looks like China is about to do to aviation what it did to shipbuilding the last decade.

I think it's a bit much.

Still early days of course, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on those dates or even on all those projects
 

sinophilia

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Extended version of this post in this URL: I did a google translate below (definitely has some errors on my part)

Fighters:
2 seater J-20 2021
J-15B Electromagnetic catapult capable carrier-based fighter flies in 2021
New carrier based aircraft flies in 2021
J-20 with WS-15 in 2022
F-15BB Electromagnetic carrier based electronic warfare aircraft flies in 2023
F-20BD two seater electronic warfare model test flight 2025

Helicopter
IAC-313A 14-ton advanced civil helicopter flies in 2022
10-ton special operations / assault helicopter flies in 2022
X814-15 ton heavy military helicopter (military version of AC313A) flies in 2023
10-ten heavy armed helicopter flies in 2022
AC-332 4-ton civil helicopter flies in 2022
AC-322 2-3 ton advanced civil helicopter flies in 2023
AC-352 7-ton advanced civil civil helicopter flies 2023
Heavy duty 35-40 ton lift helicopter flies 2025
A large tilt rotor verification aircraft flies in 2023

UAV/Bomber
Last improved model of H-6X flies in 2021
H-20 flies in 2023
Stealth attac aircraft flies in 2024
Long-range stealth attack aircraft flies in 2023
?-7 stealth attack aircraft flies in 2021
UAV with 20 ton payload flies in 2023

Civilian
CR-929 long range flies in 2025

Organizing by year for simpler reading as the years go by! (Assuming we find out the reliability of the user and/or realize some of the predictions soon.)

2021: 5 new aircraft = 3 variants + 2 clean-sheet designs

H-6X bomber
J-20 2-seater fighter
J-35 carrier-based fighter
J-15B EM-catapult carrier-based fighter
?-7 stealth attack aircraft

2022: 5 new aircraft = 1 variant + 4 clean-sheet designs

J-20 with WS-15
IAC-313A 14-ton advanced civil helicopter
10-ton special operations/assault helicopter
10-ton heavy armed helicopter
AC-332 4-ton civil helicopter

2023: 8 new aircraft = 1 variant + 7 clean-sheet designs

H-20 strategic bomber
F-15BB EM-catapult carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft
X814-15 ton heavy military helicopter (military version of AC313A)
AC-322 2-3 ton advanced civil helicopter
AC-352 7-ton advanced civil civil helicopter
Large tilt rotor verification aircraft
Long-range stealth attack aircraft
UAV with 20 ton payload

2024: 1 new aircraft = 0 variants + 1 clean-sheet design

Stealth attack aircraft

2025: 3 new aircraft = 0 variants + 3 clean-sheet designs

CR-929 long range widebody airliner
F-20BD two-seater electronic warfare
Heavy duty 35-40 ton lift helicopter



So, this seems beyond the wildest wet dreams of any fanboy of any military ever. Here is to hoping!
 

sinophilia

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Organizing by year for simpler reading as the years go by! (Assuming we find out the reliability of the user and/or realize some of the predictions soon.)

2021: 5 new aircraft = 3 variants + 2 clean-sheet designs

H-6X bomber
J-20 2-seater fighter
J-35 carrier-based fighter
J-15B EM-catapult carrier-based fighter
?-7 stealth attack aircraft

2022: 5 new aircraft = 1 variant + 4 clean-sheet designs

J-20 with WS-15
IAC-313A 14-ton advanced civil helicopter
10-ton special operations/assault helicopter
10-ton heavy armed helicopter
AC-332 4-ton civil helicopter

2023: 8 new aircraft = 1 variant + 7 clean-sheet designs

H-20 strategic bomber
F-15BB EM-catapult carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft
X814-15 ton heavy military helicopter (military version of AC313A)
AC-322 2-3 ton advanced civil helicopter
AC-352 7-ton advanced civil civil helicopter
Large tilt rotor verification aircraft
Long-range stealth attack aircraft
UAV with 20 ton payload

2024: 1 new aircraft = 0 variants + 1 clean-sheet design

Stealth attack aircraft

2025: 3 new aircraft = 0 variants + 3 clean-sheet designs

CR-929 long range widebody airliner
F-20BD two-seater electronic warfare
Heavy duty 35-40 ton lift helicopter



So, this seems beyond the wildest wet dreams of any fanboy of any military ever. Here is to hoping!

So apparently 5 bomber/attack, 4 fighter (2 carrier-based), 6 helicopters (5 heavy, 1 medium, 2 light), 1 tiltrotor, 2 EW (1 carrier-based), 1 civil passenger plane, 1 civil helicopter

For a total of 22 aircraft (17 clean-sheet designs), 18 of which (13 clean-sheet designs) in the next <3 years.
 

Blitzo

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So apparently 5 bomber/attack, 4 fighter (2 carrier-based), 6 helicopters (5 heavy, 1 medium, 2 light), 1 tiltrotor, 2 EW (1 carrier-based), 1 civil passenger plane, 1 civil helicopter

For a total of 22 aircraft (17 clean-sheet designs), 18 of which (13 clean-sheet designs) in the next <3 years.

I'd salt it well...

There should be a healthy level of skepticism here.
 

sinophilia

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Extended version of this post in this URL: I did a google translate below (definitely has some errors on my part)

Fighters:
2 seater J-20 2021
J-15B Electromagnetic catapult capable carrier-based fighter flies in 2021
New carrier based aircraft flies in 2021
J-20 with WS-15 in 2022
F-15BB Electromagnetic carrier based electronic warfare aircraft flies in 2023
F-20BD two seater electronic warfare model test flight 2025

Helicopter
IAC-313A 14-ton advanced civil helicopter flies in 2022
10-ton special operations / assault helicopter flies in 2022
X814-15 ton heavy military helicopter (military version of AC313A) flies in 2023
10-ten heavy armed helicopter flies in 2022
AC-332 4-ton civil helicopter flies in 2022
AC-322 2-3 ton advanced civil helicopter flies in 2023
AC-352 7-ton advanced civil civil helicopter flies 2023
Heavy duty 35-40 ton lift helicopter flies 2025
A large tilt rotor verification aircraft flies in 2023

UAV/Bomber
Last improved model of H-6X flies in 2021
H-20 flies in 2023
Stealth attac aircraft flies in 2024
Long-range stealth attack aircraft flies in 2023
?-7 stealth attack aircraft flies in 2021
UAV with 20 ton payload flies in 2023

Civilian
CR-929 long range flies in 2025
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I believe this one was missed if you could translate it please.
 

j17wang

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Organizing by year for simpler reading as the years go by! (Assuming we find out the reliability of the user and/or realize some of the predictions soon.)

2021: 5 new aircraft = 3 variants + 2 clean-sheet designs

H-6X bomber
J-20 2-seater fighter
J-35 carrier-based fighter
J-15B EM-catapult carrier-based fighter
?-7 stealth attack aircraft

2022: 5 new aircraft = 1 variant + 4 clean-sheet designs

J-20 with WS-15
IAC-313A 14-ton advanced civil helicopter
10-ton special operations/assault helicopter
10-ton heavy armed helicopter
AC-332 4-ton civil helicopter

2023: 8 new aircraft = 1 variant + 7 clean-sheet designs

H-20 strategic bomber
F-15BB EM-catapult carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft
X814-15 ton heavy military helicopter (military version of AC313A)
AC-322 2-3 ton advanced civil helicopter
AC-352 7-ton advanced civil civil helicopter
Large tilt rotor verification aircraft
Long-range stealth attack aircraft
UAV with 20 ton payload

2024: 1 new aircraft = 0 variants + 1 clean-sheet design

Stealth attack aircraft

2025: 3 new aircraft = 0 variants + 3 clean-sheet designs

CR-929 long range widebody airliner
F-20BD two-seater electronic warfare
Heavy duty 35-40 ton lift helicopter



So, this seems beyond the wildest wet dreams of any fanboy of any military ever. Here is to hoping!

While I do have a bit of skepticism about timeline, I am convinced these are all "must-have" requirements for the next 10 years. This simply attempts to achieve parity in quality with American assets in all classes, which is likely required in case of a full decoupling. Previously, there was the hope that China could spend less on military and the US continue its role as a global policeman. This possibility is now zero, and China will now unfortunately be required to "conventionalize" its forces and supporting logistics along american lines.
 

Aniah

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While I do have a bit of skepticism about timeline, I am convinced these are all "must-have" requirements for the next 10 years. This simply attempts to achieve parity in quality with American assets in all classes, which is likely required in case of a full decoupling. Previously, there was the hope that China could spend less on military and the US continue its role as a global policeman. This possibility is now zero, and China will now unfortunately be required to "conventionalize" its forces and supporting logistics along american lines.
This is one unfortunate circumstances that I'm too happy about. Question, what is a clean sheet design?
 
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