Canada land of Kidnappdian? Please no, ty. I rather deal with Aussie hater than hypocrite.
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The reason why China doesn't produce enough of iron ore for domestic consumption is due to lower concentration of its iron ore. Due to lower concentration, every 1 million ton of 65% concentration would require 3 million ton of domestic iron ore mix which make extraction cost sky high.
Most of China iron ore mines require over $90 MT to be profitable but both Australia and Brazil only needs $20 MT to cover their extraction cost. Another thing is that most coastal provinces would be more cost effective to import seaborne iron ore due to the transportation cost.
If Australia really banned iron ore export, then the price of iron ore would be way over $100 MT which makes Chinese iron ore competitive. Therefore, iron ore production would increase dramatically and plug the deficit cost by the ban. Although it would be costly to retrofit the steel plants for domestic iron ore and more expensive to use low concentration iron ore but the ban would not be as devastated as Australian politicians would think.
Wise Australian politician: "We are going to cut off our iron ore nose to spite our iron ore face, when we embargo our iron ore to China! That will show them who's boss!"
You know, I never thought I would live to see something like this, even suggesting that, from the puny dinosauras mind of a lying politician. Let's hope it happens! We need something for the Trump withdrawal symptoms, it is already that bad and he's still president!!!
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
It's ironic that Australia can't be truthful and appropriately blame the US for forcing them to choose a side. They afraid of a worse punishment from the US for telling the truth?
We don't know what is going on.
The previous guy Turnbull? Forget who it was. That he was pro-Huawei, he had no problem at all, never did. Then all of the sudden something got to him and he was an anti-Huawei crusader. Just about the time the Americans were making noises globally about Huawei.
Whatever type of coercion or blackmail the United States placed onto Australia about China, we will never know.
I will just follow Chairman Mao quotations. Never trust the double spy. We never know which side they're on.
Hi horse,Wise Australian politician: "We are going to cut off our iron ore nose to spite our iron ore face, when we embargo our iron ore to China! That will show them who's boss!"
You know, I never thought I would live to see something like this, even suggesting that, from the puny dinosauras mind of a lying politician. Let's hope it happens! We need something for the Trump withdrawal symptoms, it is already that bad and he's still president!!!
Do you think SCOMO is preparing Australian for the eventual Chinese ban on their iron ore export? So he will not own the blame just like Trump and place it to China
, their largest iron ore buyer. I had seen some crazy logic in my time but this one take the cake.
turnbull wasn't particularly pro-Huawei; in fact, given the compromised nature of Australian politics, no politician going into Federal parliament can even say that they are objective when it comes to China. ASIO and its handlers in the CIA demand utter anti China crusaders in government else wise they never get into office.
Morrison is now trying to save his own political hide now that Biden may come in and offer detente with China; but Morrison won't be let off the hook so lightly, what he and his mob did these past few years have damaged relations to the point where australia may as well forget about trade with china until 3 years later during the next federal elections and liberals get voted out.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
You have to remember Pompeo actually told countries to pick a side. I highly doubt China was telling countries to choose a side when they value stability especial in their own relations with the US.
Hi ansy1968,Hi horse,
Do you think SCOMO is preparing Australian for the eventual Chinese ban on their iron ore export? So he will not own the blame just like Trump and place it to China
Oh no, that is just crazy talk, but I have read suggestions, that if China and America goes to war, then Australia could join in and ban iron ore exports to China.
I thought I saw an article on this forum saying that some in Australia want to use iron ore to punish in their fight. My view is that some are talking about this as a possibility for Australia, the ban of iron ore exports to China. No way this will happen, but I sincerely hope it does. What a laugh that would be!
The big lesson here is that the Australians are soft. Just apply a little pressure like the Chinese have done, and they start to babble, and babble and babble, like deranged like.
I mean, let's be fair here, how long has Australia's anti-Huawei campaign lasted, and how long has Australia anti-China Covid demands for an inquiry lasted? For longer than these recent moves by China over a few Australian goods.
It was never a fair fight.
So, why did they do it? What did the Americans do to them, to make them cut their coking coal nose off their coking coal face? To spite the Chinese?
I am going to miss Trump. But we still got Morrison man to kick around like a football.
bajingan
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I suspect the americans use threats to withhold supply of military ammo and spare parts to get their vassals in line
Most american vassals use almost 100% american made military equipments this especially true for japan and australia,
australia almost had zero military industry heck they even have zero manufacturing capabilities
It would be very easy for the us to dictate somewhere along the lines of "do as i say or i will stop all spare parts, ammo, maintenance of your tanks, f18 etc" thus rendering their armed forces impotent in an instant