Hong-Kong Protests

solarz

Brigadier
Education could have been one of HK's big export industries, especially after Australia and Canada's anti-China turn. Alas with HKU being the breeding ground for anti-China activism, HK degrees are fast becoming tainted. This year the student with Jiangsu's highest humanities Gaokao score accepted HKU's full scholarship offer after getting cold shoulders from PKU and Tsinghua, and Weibo erupted with people questioning her choice.

I realize you're probably providing an example of HK degrees becoming "tainted", but the Weibo reactions are moronic.

First of all, it's not her fault HKU made her a better offer if PKU and Qinghua snubbed her. I would have made the same choice had I been in her shoes. Second, there's nothing better for patriotic education than spending some time among rabidly delusional anti-China people who tell you to your face that they know your country better than you do when though they've never set foot in it.

In HK especially, you realize how poisonous Western ideology can be, even if it sounds really nice on the surface.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Hi Gatekeeper,

Hong Kong was a very important financial hub.

They still are , if they changed their attitude and mentality about the mainlanders.
There is still growth if they integrate and be part of greater bay area project and also a chance to reinvent itself. I hope they heed President Xi call for HK youth to live, study and work in the mainland. Its a important first step to wean off its insular mentality.

I couldn't agree more. But they need to get rid of the rioters first. They are killing Hong Kong by their own actions. The brainwashed idiots.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
I realize you're probably providing an example of HK degrees becoming "tainted", but the Weibo reactions are moronic.

First of all, it's not her fault HKU made her a better offer if PKU and Qinghua snubbed her. I would have made the same choice had I been in her shoes. Second, there's nothing better for patriotic education than spending some time among rabidly delusional anti-China people who tell you to your face that they know your country better than you do when though they've never set foot in it.

In HK especially, you realize how poisonous Western ideology can be, even if it sounds really nice on the surface.

The sad thing is, there are Chinese students from the mainland already there in these Hong Kong universities. And they are getting bullied and taunted by local students. There's video clips out there showing this, but the western MSM are not showing this sides of their behaviour for obvious reasons.

Heck, you don't even need to be from the mainland to get bullied, you can be local, but if your view is different, then you are in for a tough time. So much for freedom of expression the thugs always on about.
 

supersnoop

Major
Registered Member
Hi Gatekeeper,

Hong Kong was a very important financial hub.

They still are , if they changed their attitude and mentality about the mainlanders.
There is still growth if they integrate and be part of greater bay area project and also a chance to reinvent itself. I hope they heed President Xi call for HK youth to live, study and work in the mainland. Its a important first step to wean off its insular mentality.

What did they put in your Jollibee? What you said is too reasonable, therefore it won't happen!

All jokes aside, the problem with HK is very similar to the USA. It has become too polarized. HK is still a very fashionable place, why else would Jack Ma and Pony Ma both buy the most expensive real estate there? Realistically, people in HK should be trying harder to find their place within China, and not trying to create a place outside of it. However, most of the so-called "pro-democracy" politicians keep drawing these hard lines and kick and scream whenever they feel they are crossed for theatrical purposes. A great example is the oath taking scandal, why did they use foul language? Did it serve any purpose for the people? No. Did it bring HK any closer to the stated goal of universal suffrage? No, if anything it made the situation worse.

Education could have been one of HK's big export industries, especially after Australia and Canada's anti-China turn. Alas with HKU being the breeding ground for anti-China activism, HK degrees are fast becoming tainted. This year the student with Jiangsu's highest humanities Gaokao score accepted HKU's full scholarship offer after getting cold shoulders from PKU and Tsinghua, and Weibo erupted with people questioning her choice.

There are not enough universities or spaces for mainlanders. There are not even enough for locals. The post secondary education level in HK is still really low (~30%). Politics aside, dollar for dollar Canada and Australia are bargains, especially if you consider many of their Universities are higher ranked than those in HK and super easy to get into (relatively speaking).
 

Tyler

Captain
Registered Member
Education could have been one of HK's big export industries, especially after Australia and Canada's anti-China turn. Alas with HKU being the breeding ground for anti-China activism, HK degrees are fast becoming tainted. This year the student with Jiangsu's highest humanities Gaokao score accepted HKU's full scholarship offer after getting cold shoulders from PKU and Tsinghua, and Weibo erupted with people questioning her choice.
Hong Kong government should clean up their universities in HK. A lot of these university students unions are actually breeding grounds for anti-Chinese attitude.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Recently I read an article that Japan wants to be the next Hong Kong. It was talking about Japan becoming an international financial hub. Why weren't they before? There was nothing stopping it from doing it. The only thing that makes Hong Kong Hong Kong that makes all these Asian countries aspire to be the next Hong Kong is it's next to China. They can't be Hong Kong without China okaying it. Just because someone says this place will be the next Hong Kong by name that means they will be just from saying it? Without China, the only thing they will be is where immoral people hide their money. What they're saying is they think foreigners have more say in Hong Kong being a financial hub than China. No, they're in Hong Kong because they want access to China. Without China they have nothing.
 

OppositeDay

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Registered Member
Recently I read an article that Japan wants to be the next Hong Kong. It was talking about Japan becoming an international financial hub. Why weren't they before? There was nothing stopping it from doing it. The only thing that makes Hong Kong Hong Kong that makes all these Asian countries aspire to be the next Hong Kong is it's next to China. They can't be Hong Kong without China okaying it. Just because someone says this place will be the next Hong Kong by name that means they will be just from saying it? Without China, the only thing they will be is where immoral people hide their money. What they're saying is they think foreigners have more say in Hong Kong being a financial hub than China. No, they're in Hong Kong because they want access to China. Without China they have nothing.

You have to give Hong Kong's legal system some credit here. Tokyo wasn't an international financial hub even when Japan was world's second largest economy. Japan couldn't be an international financial hub because it had no rule of law. The Carlos Ghosn debacle just exposed it to the entire world. With Suga's recent crackdown on academic freedom, I don't think he's in any mood to improve Japan's legal system either.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
You have to give Hong Kong's legal system some credit here. Tokyo wasn't an international financial hub even when Japan was world's second largest economy. Japan couldn't be an international financial hub because it had no rule of law. The Carlos Ghosn debacle just exposed it to the entire world. With Suga's recent crackdown on academic freedom, I don't think he's in any mood to improve Japan's legal system either.

Foreigners are in Hong Kong because they don't trust China's financial system. Either way they're in Hong Kong because of China. "Hong Kong" can't be transferred over to another country that easily and without China giving them access like Hong Kong has. Without China they will be just any other financial hub where foreigners will go closer to home to find the same banks. So what would make them special for them to want to be the next Hong Kong? Nothing. Like I said it will be where immoral people want to hide their money from their own governments and people like Trump where the banks at home knew he was huge risk and wouldn't dare give him a loan so he had to look for other suckers in other countries that would dare risk it because they aren't the big guys that get all the business.

Then on the opposite end where there was a story that some Hong Kong billionaire wanted Ireland to give two hundred thousand Hong Kongers citizenship and they can create a Hong Kong in Ireland in exchange. Hong Kongers thinking they can flee to Ireland thinking they will bring the prosperity of Hong Kong to Ireland with them? If they're fleeing Hong Hong to escape China, they have nothing without access to China because that's where all of Hong Kong's prosperity comes from. It's stupid for them to think they still will have Hong Kong/China connections to bring it to Ireland. Financial services in that region can all be done in London. Those Hong Kongers fleeing China have nothing for Ireland..
 
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