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HelloBrigador

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Does India produce any gold, as they seem to like jewellery a lot?
Yes, India has gold mines. In fact, I can't think of any large countries that don't have gold mines.

But the production is not very high, averaging at around 2.4 tons per year, Which is not enough to make into the world top 15 producer list.

However, India does have a pretty sizeable gold reserve compare to its minuscule production, at approximately 640 ton in early 2020, Which is the world tenth-largest gold reserve.

According to an India newspaper, India is also the world biggest gold consumer, but no data was given.
 

j17wang

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Yes, India has gold mines. In fact, I can't think of any large countries that don't have gold mines.

But the production is not very high, averaging at around 2.4 tons per year, Which is not enough to make into the world top 15 producer list.

However, India does have a pretty sizeable gold reserve compare to its minuscule production, at approximately 640 ton in early 2020, Which is the world tenth-largest gold reserve.

According to an India newspaper, India is also the world biggest gold consumer, but no data was given.

India is likely the worlds biggest gold consumer, since its very common in weddings and stuff. If you think about industrial vs consumer useage of gold, India's market is pretty much all consumer driven. China traditionally didn't put as much value on gold as other metals, so I wouldn't be surprised if most chinese gold demand is industrial driven.
 

Tam

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India is likely the worlds biggest gold consumer, since its very common in weddings and stuff. If you think about industrial vs consumer useage of gold, India's market is pretty much all consumer driven. China traditionally didn't put as much value on gold as other metals, so I wouldn't be surprised if most chinese gold demand is industrial driven.

China has been producing a whooping 400 tons of gold each year for a good number of years. Much of that doesn't leave the country. I would think that much of the Chinese demand is the government buying them up and storing them up as gold bullion, leaving a fraction for electronic and industrial use.
 

Tyler

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China has been producing a whooping 400 tons of gold each year for a good number of years. Much of that doesn't leave the country. I would think that much of the Chinese demand is the government buying them up and storing them up as gold bullion, leaving a fraction for electronic and industrial use.
Do they still have gold reserve stored in the US? What is China's total gold reserves relative to other countries?
 

Equation

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Do they still have gold reserve stored in the US? What is China's total gold reserves relative to other countries?

Jansen concurs,
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official Chinese holdings to be around the 4,000 tonne mark. That would make it the second-biggest owner of gold after the US.

Jansen's grand total of all the gold in China now stands at around 21,021 tonnes.

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localizer

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Conclusion
It is not clear when the PBoC will unleash its attack on the US dollar, but what is clear is that preparations are underway to undermine the US dollar and promote the renminbi as a major international reserve currency. The US has nothing at present to compete with the DCEP. The 8,000 tons of gold that the US has will take second place to Chinese holdings, which might be as high as 20,000 tons. This factor will possibly be decisive in undermining trust in the US dollar and favor the renminbi when the PBoC makes its move.

This writer has often suggested that portfolio diversification into other currencies and countries is one way of countering future US dollar depreciation. Just how much the US dollar will depreciate is a matter of speculation. Given that Asia will become the most important economic area globally in the near future, and that means within two to three years, demand for the US dollar will markedly decrease when the PRC (People’s Republic of China) demands payment in yuan and not US dollars. One reason for this assumption is that US GDP has and will have suffered from the COVID-19 epidemic and the measures taken, namely, lockdowns, to try and contain the virus. In fact, there are so many factors involved in what will be a transition from a US dollar-dominated global economy to a situation where the yuan plays an important role that it is difficult to reckon how much the US dollar will depreciate. One can speculate, but investors should prepare for the change.
 

In4ser

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Seem to be getting wildly varying figures for China's gold reserves on the internet. So I'm guessing China is being opaque on the issue but it is interesting to speculate.
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localizer

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Seem to be getting wildly varying figures for China's gold reserves on the internet. So I'm guessing China is being opaque on the issue but it is interesting to speculate.
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The most important thing is for Chinese citizens to have gold on hand as well. Indians are doing well in this regard with gold jewelry and stuff due to frequent fluctuations in their currency.
 
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