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Hendrik_2000

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Chinese companies turn to domestic market due to inventory of unsold good
In China, many foreign trade companies turn to the domestic market as the continued global spread of
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is weighing on the world economy and trade

At the same time there is some who call for China to renegotiate the 1 st phase of the deal
BEIJING (Reuters) - Hawkish voices have emerged in China seeking a reevaluation of its Phase 1 trade deal with the United States, with some advisers urging fresh talks, a state-controlled tabloid said, citing sources close to the Chinese government.

Advisers close to the talks have suggested that Chinese officials revive the possibility of invalidating the trade pact and negotiate a new one to tilt the scales more to the Chinese side, the Global Times reported on Monday, citing the sources.

The Global Times is published by the People's Daily, the official newspaper of China's ruling Communist Party. While the Global Times is not an official mouthpiece of the party, its views are believed to reflect those of its leaders at times.

Under the Phase 1 deal signed in January, Beijing pledged to buy at least $200 billion in additional U.S. goods and services over two years while Washington agreed to roll back tariffs in stages on Chinese goods.

U.S. President Donald Trump said last week that he was "very torn" about whether to end the so-called Phase 1 trade deal, just hours after top trade officials from both countries pledged to press ahead with implementing the agreement.

In recent months, Trump has blamed China's early handling of the new coronavirus outbreak in the central Chinese city of Wuhan for causing thousands of deaths and millions of job losses in the United States.

The Trump administration also asserted that there was evidence the new coronavirus came from a Wuhan laboratory. China has rejected the accusation.

Malicious attacks by the United States have ignited a "tsunami of anger" among Chinese trade insiders, the Global Times said.

It added that China had made compromises for the Phase 1 pact to press ahead.

"It's in fact in China's interests to terminate the current Phase 1 deal," a trade adviser to the Chinese government told the Global Times, pointing to the weakening U.S. economy and the upcoming U.S. presidential elections.

"The U.S. now cannot afford to restart the trade war with China if everything goes back to the starting point."
 

Rettam Stacf

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You forget Russia' Far East.

hullopilllw, thanks. China approved import of barley from Russia, another friendly neighboring state, just in August 2019.

Together with the approval for barley from Kazakhstan in 2018, it illustrates China has been working hard at diversification sources of all its imports, not just barley, to increase the country's leverage and avoid any negative impact from potential sanction.

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manqiangrexue

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In a fight with someone of similar weight class and reach to you, if you find yourself always swinging at the wrong place at the wrong time while he catches you again and again with seemingly lucky shots, you likely face someone with superior footwork. China seems to be boycotting the US when it has a surplus and buying up all the goods when it has a shortage! US meat in short supply with supermarkets imposing quotas and fast food places running out, now China quadruples its pork imports and Smithfield (owned by China) reaps the profits. I don't know if that's luck or planned, but this is looks like some trickster economic footwork here!
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As U.S. meat workers fall sick and supplies dwindle, exports to China soar

The disruptions mean consumers could see 30% less meat in supermarkets by the end of May, at prices 20% higher than last year, according to Will Sawyer, lead economist at agricultural lender CoBank.

While pork supplies tightened as the number of pigs slaughtered each day plunged by about 40% since mid-March, shipments of American pork to China more than quadrupled over the same period, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data.
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Smithfield, which China's WH Group bought for $4.7 billion in 2013, was the biggest U.S. exporter to China from January to March, according to Panjiva, a division of S&P Global Market Intelligence. Smithfield shipped at least 13,680 tonnes by sea in March, Panjiva said, citing its most recent data.

Smithfield, the world's biggest pork processor, said in April that U.S. plant closures were pushing retailers "perilously close to the edge" on supplies.
 

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I guess this is not unexpected. Companies need to diversify but I read somewhere that all companies diversify and that mean some diversification will also come to China from other countries although I have not read specifically which ones.

Hopefully donestic fill the void and give work to factory workers. This diversification will likely take a couple years or longer to fully implement.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Here is the statistic of Chinese 40th sprint into prosperity

China’s is the fastest growth by a major economy in human history – 40 years of China’s ‘reform and opening up’
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The ‘Western media’ is forced to attempt to factually conceal the scale of China’s achievement because to admit it would transform the world’s understanding of itself. For developing countries, the overwhelming majority of the world’s population, to admit this reality would show that the China’s ‘economic model’ is by far most effective practical way to achieve economic growth, to gigantically and rapidly improve the living standards of the average population, and to radically eliminate poverty. For the advanced economies China’s ‘socialist market economy’, with its decisive role of the state sector, but combined with a private sector, shows a clear and successful alternative to the failure of neo-liberalism in the ‘Washington Consensus’ and the austerity policies pursued by the advanced countries.

Most terrifyingly of all for the Western media China shows that the most successful economy in the world in producing economic growth and improving living standards is a socialist and not a capitalist one.

Because it is therefore vital for the Western media to prevent the truth about China’s economic achievements being widely know this website is therefore going to mark the 40th anniversary of the ‘reform and opening up’ policy, introduced by Deng Xiaoping and Chen Yun, by a series of articles on the facts of China’s economic achievements in 1978-2018. It will demonstrate why it is simply a statement of fact that China’s economic achievement in the 40 years of ‘reform and opening up’ is greatest in human history.

This first article simply deals with the speed of China’s economic development. The economic growth rate of China in 1978-2019 is the fastest in a major economy in human history.

  • Between 1978 and 2017 China’s economy expanded at an annual average 9.5% growth rate, growing in size almost 35 times.
For comparison the fastest rates of growth of other major economies over a 39 year period were the so called ‘Asian Tigers’. These were:
Taiwan Province of China, expanding at an average 8.8% and increasing in size almost 27 times in 1950-89;
South Korea expanding at an annual average 8.3% or increasing in size almost 23 times in 1952-91,
Hong Kong SAR growing at an average 8.1% or expanding almost 21 times in 1958-1997, and Singapore growing at an annual average 8.1%, or expanding almost 21 times in 1951-1990. These are shown on the chart.

But all these economies were very small compared to China. Taking really large economies, which are therefore more comparable to China, the fastest growth over a 39 year period ever recorded was Japan in 1950-89 when it expanded at an annual average 6.7% or by almost 13 times.

The facts are therefore clear. China’s is the fastest growth ever experienced by a major economy in the whole of human history. There are other features, which will be explored in this series of articles, which are equally striking, but this single fact alone establishes China as an unprecedented economic achievement.

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bajingan

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China has suspended imports from four australian abattoirs
The pain has begun, australia is about to suffer the same fate as canada when China retaliated against the arrest of meng wanzou by banning canadian agriculture products.
And its only just beginning i suspect it will be followed up by ban of wines, other meat products, and group tourism to australia
australia has been a thorn on China backside for so long, its time for them to pay the price
 
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followup, kind of very cautious:
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related is
Donald Trump says he is ‘not interested’ in China trade deal renegotiation
  • The US president argues Chinese negotiators would only want any changes to benefit their side
  • ‘Let’s see if they live up to the deal that they signed,’ Trump adds

with a funny mix-up of the SCMP and Global Times inside LOL so follow the link
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if interested
 

zgx09t

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It appears China is priming up to revive the private SME's in a focused and targeted way, at the same time getting ready for another round of trade war, though it seems she wants to delay it as much as possible for clearly obvious reasons. Next week's NPC will be interesting.
 
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