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AssassinsMace

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The US is on the losing side no matter what. Why? Because the US has to be in control of literally everything. They have to be number one in literally everything. Anything less is complete failure in their minds. Anybody who challenges their position is seen as a mortal threat and enemy. It's a utopian idea meaning it's impossible to ever achieve given human nature. It's ironic that the US says it stands for independence and sovereignty when those are things that work against their goals. That's because when your jailer tells you the 10 X 10 cell you're confined in is freedom, that's what it is. It's the same when they say when Pelosi and Trump can agree, it must be right and nothing wrong. They want the world to think right-wing Republicans and left-wing Democrats covers the universe of all thought. That's why they think they get to decide for the world because only they know what's best for everyone when you're just living in a 10 X 10 cell. When you're not exposed to anything outside that 10 X 10 cell, that is the only universe you know hence why they want everyone to embrace their values. When they tell you and you listen how the universe works, they're in control so that they will always make sure they're number one.

Back in the 80s, newspaper columnist, Pat Buchanan, was consider to be the most extreme right-wing pundit out there at the time. He's said he hated the Chinese because they aren't Christian. He also was known for hating African-Americans and Latino-Americans, two groups that have been assimilated the most by Western culture embracing Christianity and their values. They also claim to be the most disenfranchised groups in the world. So what's the point of embracing American culture and values when they will contradict and find a reason to hate and undermine you anyway?
 

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The US is on the losing side no matter what. Why? Because the US has to be in control of literally everything. They have to be number one in literally everything. Anything less is complete failure in their minds. Anybody who challenges their position is seen as a mortal threat and enemy. It's a utopian idea meaning it's impossible to ever achieve given human nature. It's ironic that the US says it stands for independence and sovereignty when those are things that work against their goals. That's because when your jailer tells you the 10 X 10 cell you're confined in is freedom, that's what it is. It's the same when they say when Pelosi and Trump can agree, it must be right and nothing wrong. They want the world to think right-wing Republicans and left-wing Democrats covers the universe of all thought. That's why they think they get to decide for the world because only they know what's best for everyone when you're just living in a 10 X 10 cell. When you're not exposed to anything outside that 10 X 10 cell, that is the only universe you know hence why they want everyone to embrace their values. When they tell you and you listen how the universe works, they're in control so that they will always make sure they're number one.

Back in the 80s, newspaper columnist, Pat Buchanan, was consider to be the most extreme right-wing pundit out there at the time. He's said he hated the Chinese because they aren't Christian. He also was known for hating African-Americans and Latino-Americans, two groups that have been assimilated the most by Western culture embracing Christianity and their values. They also claim to be the most disenfranchised groups in the world. So what's the point of embracing American culture and values when they will contradict and find a reason to hate and undermine you anyway?

There's a Chinese phrase that sums up your 10' x 10' analogy. It's been used quite a lot lately to describe the thugs in Hong Kong, and the president of the ROCK.

It is called: Frog inside the well!
 

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The words horse, dead and flogging comes to. Mind

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US defence secretary warns Huawei 5G will put alliances at risk


Mark Esper says countries using Chinese technology will put intelligence cooperation at risk

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Trump in just one tweet has put its alliances into a headspin. He now admit in his tweets that the often used Nationsal Security is making America a diffical place to trade. He said some proposals to ban high tech trade with China are rediculous and US want to sale, sale, sale, to China so that trade don't go to other markets. So what messages are allies like Australia, new Zesaland, Japan and Canada are gertting? They have been following Trump's every whim and fancy on Natioal Security ground. America now have the advandages of trading with China because he managed to convince (forced) its allies to limit their trades with China and he managed a trade deal with the chinese. Now I am not sure whether Trump is an idiot or a genius or simply unstable. But he is definitely puting America interests above all its allies and managed to do so except perhap UK.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Trump in just one tweet has put its alliances into a headspin. He now admit in his tweets that the often used Nationsal Security is making America a diffical place to trade. He said some proposals to ban high tech trade with China are rediculous and US want to sale, sale, sale, to China so that trade don't go to other markets. So what messages are allies like Australia, new Zesaland, Japan and Canada are gertting? They have been following Trump's every whim and fancy on Natioal Security ground. America now have the advandages of trading with China because he managed to convince (forced) its allies to limit their trades with China and he managed a trade deal with the chinese. Now I am not sure whether Trump is an idiot or a genius or simply unstable. But he is definitely puting America interests above all its allies and managed to do so except perhap UK.

Sounds like a shrewd stock move.
 

Aniah

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Trump in just one tweet has put its alliances into a headspin. He now admit in his tweets that the often used Nationsal Security is making America a diffical place to trade. He said some proposals to ban high tech trade with China are rediculous and US want to sale, sale, sale, to China so that trade don't go to other markets. So what messages are allies like Australia, new Zesaland, Japan and Canada are gertting? They have been following Trump's every whim and fancy on Natioal Security ground. America now have the advandages of trading with China because he managed to convince (forced) its allies to limit their trades with China and he managed a trade deal with the chinese. Now I am not sure whether Trump is an idiot or a genius or simply unstable. But he is definitely puting America interests above all its allies and managed to do so except perhap UK.
So he simply threw his own allies under the bus so he can take it all. Wow, that IS extremely shrewd like Siege said.
 

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Trump in just one tweet has put its alliances into a headspin. He now admit in his tweets that the often used Nationsal Security is making America a diffical place to trade. He said some proposals to ban high tech trade with China are rediculous and US want to sale, sale, sale, to China so that trade don't go to other markets. So what messages are allies like Australia, new Zesaland, Japan and Canada are gertting? They have been following Trump's every whim and fancy on Natioal Security ground. America now have the advandages of trading with China because he managed to convince (forced) its allies to limit their trades with China and he managed a trade deal with the chinese. Now I am not sure whether Trump is an idiot or a genius or simply unstable. But he is definitely puting America interests above all its allies and managed to do so except perhap UK.

This is what I've been trying to say. Those countries that backed him all the way must be feeling somewhat unease at the moment. But its nothing less than they deserved for being such a lap dog.

At the end of the day, there's only one interest that trump all others. And these countries are finding out the hard way! serve them right!
 

Equation

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Times are changing.


....China’s “One Belt, One Road” (OBOR) Initiative, planned for a 2049 completion, is advancing at a furious pace. In 2019 alone, Chinese companies signed contracts worth up to $128 billion to start Chinese large-scale infrastructure projects in various countries.

While building new highways and ports abroad is beneficial for Chinese financiers, OBOR is also about creating new markets and trade routes for Chinese goods in Asia. Recent
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found that the OBOR program’s infrastructure expansion and logistics performance improvements led to positive effects on China’s exports.

Nevertheless, it’s clear the new infrastructure network is already transforming global trade, possibly cementing China’s position as the world’s major trading partner for years to come.

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