Hong-Kong Protests

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"The baptist university alumni"! That says it all. Now, how the hell a foreign religion got to a place of learning. If ISIS started a university, say in the US or the UK. I'm sure they would be an uproar in these countries of radicalisation!

With regards to her UK and HK citizenship. It is perfectly normal as both UK and HK recognise due- nationality. (I'm pleased to say that's ok as I'm one, and so are my children). This is because of my birthrights and my naturalisation by marriage. It is perfectly normal.

HOWEVER, I Believe that if anyone should hold important post like government officials or media empire like Jimmy Lai.

Then they should have to give up one nationality. This is to stop traitors like Jimmy Lai who incite Hong Kong to wreck the place, and face the consequences while he can jump on the first plane out of the mess that he help to create!

Because it's all about believing in "god". If only EVERYBODY believes in the Christian lord and savior Jesus Christ than there will be peace in this world. They don't want to see a separate belief system and culture doing better than them. These religious zealots hates the PRC and their communist so badly that they are willing to do anything nefarious to cause chaos under the disguise of human rights. I'm sorry but I don't want to see China turned into another Trump MAGA trash country that sadly the USA has became...full of self righteous people believing that the world revolves around them and their god.
 
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jimmyjames30x30

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Because it's all about believing in "god". If only EVERYBODY believes in the Christian lord and savior Jesus Christ than there will be peace in this world. They don't want to see a separate belief system and culture doing better than them. These religious zealots hates the PRC and their communist so badly that they are willing to do anything nefarious to cause chaos under the disguise of human rights. I'm sorry but I don't want to see China turned into another Trump MAGA trash country that sadly the USA has became...full of self righteous people believing that the world revolves around them and their god.

This is exactly where they are wrong. I am not even saying this from a point-of-view that is opposing them. Speaking from a neutral point-of-view, what these mobs are doing only benefits the PRC (their sworn enemy). Because if they really are doing this as a "clash of civilization" kind of confrontation, they are ruining Western Civilization.

Hong Kong in essence is an iteration of the Western Civilization in Asia (particularly in Chinese society). It is basically a society based upon British-origin institutions and the Common Law. Therefore, in any real Civilizational confrontation, what the West would ideally want to do is to make sure Hong Kong has strong stability, while making mainland China society are more volatile and unstable. This is how the Western model win in a Chinese society in the long run. And this is how the west could win in a clash-of-civilization competition with today's China in the long run.

However, this is the opposite of what's happening: making Hong Kong society less stable. This is really beyond my understanding. I have not an iota of clue why the west would want to push for this.

Dear MOD: I am not sure if you guys would find this reply a bit to political. I hope you guys are fine with it.
 

solarz

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This is exactly where they are wrong. I am not even saying this from a point-of-view that is opposing them. Speaking from a neutral point-of-view, what these mobs are doing only benefits the PRC (their sworn enemy). Because if they really are doing this as a "clash of civilization" kind of confrontation, they are ruining Western Civilization.

Hong Kong in essence is an iteration of the Western Civilization in Asia (particularly in Chinese society). It is basically a society based upon British-origin institutions and the Common Law. Therefore, in any real Civilizational confrontation, what the West would ideally want to do is to make sure Hong Kong has strong stability, while making mainland China society are more volatile and unstable. This is how the Western model win in a Chinese society in the long run. And this is how the west could win in a clash-of-civilization competition with today's China in the long run.

However, this is the opposite of what's happening: making Hong Kong society less stable. This is really beyond my understanding. I have not an iota of clue why the west would want to push for this.

Dear MOD: I am not sure if you guys would find this reply a bit to political. I hope you guys are fine with it.

The current HK unrest reminds me of the Boxers Rebellion. Both are essentially self-destructive movements cheered on by nearsighted political backers.
 
Do we have a statistics of how many protesters and police officers hurt since the start of this whole mess?

Also, has that girl, whose eye was allegedly shot by the police, been examined by any medical professionals yet? It’s so weird that she refused to get her eye examined by anyone... That would’ve been a perfect evidence of “police brutality”...

@vesicles see below, basically there is no publicly available evidence as to what her injuries are nor how it happened. Of course the anti-government crowd including the woman herself have churned out propaganda based on her unverified and so far unverifiable claims.

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傷右眼女發律師信反對交資料予警
2019/09/08 09:11
八一一尖沙咀衝突中右眼受傷的女子,警方早前指取得法庭手令,正向醫管局索取醫療記錄,據了解,事主發了律師信,反對醫院交出資料,警方仍未看到報告。

八月十一日尖沙咀衝突,一名女子右眼受傷。究竟她的傷勢是怎樣造成,當事人在片段中沒有透露,警方指調查了近一個月仍未確定到。警方早前指透過法庭手令,取得醫療記錄就能進一步釐清事實。

消息指,警方先後兩次向法庭申請手令,向醫管局索取醫療記錄,第一次因未掌握到傷者個人資料,院方處理不到,到上星期第二次取得手令,要求醫管局交資料,警方現時仍未看到記錄。

為何未看到?據了解,女子早前委託了律師去信醫管局反對醫院交出記錄,醫管局回覆表示,公立醫院有既定程序處理索取醫療記錄的申請,未得到病人同意不宜評論。

A woman who was injured in the right eye in the riot at Tsim Sha Tsui on Aug 11. HKPF earlier pointed out that it had obtained a court warrant and was seeking medical records from the Hospital Authority. It is understood that the victim issued a letter of attorney against handing over of the the medical records. The police still did not see the report. .

A woman was injured in the right eye in the conflict at Tsim Sha Tsui on August 11. What caused her injury? The women did not disclose the cause of the injury in the footage of an interview. The police said that its investigation has not been able to pinpoint the cause of injury for nearly a month. The police earlier pointed out that through the court warrants, medical records can be used to further clarify the facts.

According to the news, the police applied to the court twice for the medical records from the Hospital Authority. The first time, because the personal data of the injured person was not available, the hospital could not handle it. The second time last week, a warrant was obtained. The information still has not been received by the police.

Why didn't police see it? It is understood that the woman had previously entrusted a lawyer to the Hospital Authority to oppose the hospital's surrender of records. The Hospital Authority replied that the public hospital had an established procedure for processing medical records, and it was not appropriate to comment without the patient's consent.
 
Not so obvious to me as some HKer's actually refer to mainland Chinese as extraterrestrial to demean and dehumanize.

The absurdity of the anti-government claims and code are designed to obfuscate as well as fester a sense of exclusivity and paranoia, kool aid for cult members. Good thing is it doesn't give it any more credit to any objective observer.
 
Here's what I was talking about earlier about the mysterious one eye girl.

It transpire, the police requested medical records from the hospital.

BUT the one-eye girl got her lawyer to prevent the hospital to hand it over! lol

Noticed none og the MSM reported this, if the public knows the truth, it'll dealt a blow to their cause, because people (the one sitting on the fence) will realised what a masive propaganda battle is being fought between MSM and the truth!

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Also the injured woman and the anti-government crowd she is part of have not presented any evidence to prove their claims.
 
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