Hong-Kong Protests

[phynex92]

I think Deng fully anticipated what will potentially happen to HK post-handover. It was just that China in 1984 wasn't in a strong position to negotiate on the matter especially after the fiasco of the Cultural Revolution. This is why the garrison law was put into the Basic Law in case of emergencies.

I might have an unpopular opinion here, but I think it does serve China's interest to maintain a certain degree of autonomy for HK. With China's one-party system, I personally believe it does need voices of opposition to correct itself from time to time. HK serves as a good place for this because it not so small that it is insignificant but also not so big that it can steer the entire country off-course.

 

[PanAsian]

I'm not sure they are ignorant of history. (I hope they are, but I'afraid they are not)!
When I was growing up in Hong Kong, we have history lessons like any other countries. And history is Chinese. On top of that, my elders taught us about the opium war and the unfair treaties. So we are fully aware why Hong Kong was a British territory, and why we are all British "second class" subjects!

These kids have not lived through that period. I mean 95% is under 22 (Hong Kong returned to the motherland 22 years ago) and the other 3% is under 29. Under 7 years old, too young to know British rule!

As I have mentioned in my previous post. Most of these kids are descended from parents,/grandparents who loathed CCP with every fiber in their body for returns I already mentioned.

Just take a look at the media tycoon Jimmy Lai. He escaped from China during the cultural revolution! And as for Joshua wong, whoes parents are refugees from Vietnam, (where they are bought up detesting everything Chinese)! Plus the Christians churches whos hatred towards CCP is well known because CCP is godless people. And it doesn't help if one of the university in Hong Kong is a baptist university, talk about perfect breeding ground for young radicals!

These peoples' hatred of CCP is so great, it just doesn't matter how much history you teaches them, the hatred will always shines through.

Then the teaching and other aspects of handling the haters need to be improved until the haters are made practically irrelevant. It is of course impossible to convince or convert everyone but it is definitely possible to have fewer than this number of haters at the level of rioting.

 

[supercat]

Now I don't know about you guys, I think whoever done this need shooting! I think its worse than vandalising the metro.

Hiw dare they! There's nothing sacred! Thats Dr Sun Yat-Sen statute they just desecrated! View attachment 53598

Such ignorance and stupidity is scary. Whoever did this probably had already been turned into a vicious tool by those with ulterior motives. No wander the protest has entered a more violent phase, because it has been overtaken by these brainwashed simpletons.

 

[PanAsian]

Waving those American flags and singing the US national anthem will only draw more contempt from people. The movement they started to chant for HK independence, was the moment I knew that this protest was deemed to fail because they lost all of their legitimacy and sympathy from the mainlanders. If they sticked with purely fighting for universal suffrage, then they might of actually gotten somewhere.

Again, these rioters are not fighting for "universal suffrage" at all. Hong Kongers already have universal suffrage - one person one vote.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I think Deng fully anticipated what will potentially happen to HK post-handover. It was just that China in 1984 wasn't in a strong position to negotiate on the matter especially after the fiasco of the Cultural Revolution. This is why the garrison law was put into the Basic Law in case of emergencies.

I might have an unpopular opinion here, but I think it does serve China's interest to maintain a certain degree of autonomy for HK. With China's one-party system, I personally believe it does need voices of opposition to correct itself from time to time. HK serves as a good place for this because it not so small that it is insignificant but also not so big that it can steer the entire country off-course.

Deng probably did agree to anything just to get the handover finalized. He shouldn't have because by the British with their own nonsense about the "rule of law", the treaty over 150 years ago says China gets Hong Kong back. The British did not care about bestowing Hong Kong with democracy back then. They denied it throughout their 156 year occupation. Democracy wasn't a part of their vocabulary. The negotiations started right after the Falklands War and there were jingoistic British who were daring to advocate keeping Hong Kong breaking their own nonsense about the rule of law. And China said they were entering Hong Kong regardless as said of the treaty is China's right. Yeah they fought the Falklands War but they were in no condition to take on China so they backed down. For all I care China can renege on what was agreed to with the handover since the US and British have and are interfering in Hong Kong.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Black shirt protestors poured gasoline on Taiwanese reporter for speaking Mandarin.

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[PanAsian]

Hong Kong Police Brutally Beat & Pepper Spray Citizens In The Subway!

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Just before what this video captures these same citizens were rioting, attacking other actually peaceful citizens and police, destroying subway stations and other public and private property, then once they heard the police were coming they promptly changed clothes and tossed aside most of their rioting gear save the many umbrellas they are still seen wielding.

 

[PanAsian]

WOW HK Youth are really loud. All bluster and no substance. What exactly do they hope to achieve by arguing with commuters? This does not make any sense other than to wreck havoc and perhaps make China look bad?

These rioters definitely do NOT represent Hong Kong youth. The manipulators certainly want China and Chinese people, as well as Hong Kong and Hong Kong people, to look bad but remember it is just the rioters who are falling for it for all the wrong reasons.

 

[supercat]

Then the teaching and other aspects of handling the haters need to be improved until the haters are made practically irrelevant. It is of course impossible to convince or convert everyone but it is definitely possible to have fewer than this number of haters at the level of rioting.

Haters hate because

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Anti-locust ad to fuel Mainland tensions
After calls to halt tensions between Hong Kong and Mainland citizens, members of the Hong Kong Golden Forum have carried through on their promise to advertise their frustrations with Mainland Chinese in mainstream media outlets.

Jimmy Lai’s Next Media has today carried the full page advertisement in its two daily newspapers Apple Daily and Sharp Daily, which refer to Mainland Chinese as “locusts” who swarm the city and drain its resources.

The ad also aims to halt the “unlimited invasion of mainland pregnant women in Hong Kong” and for Mainland Chinese to “respect” Hong Kong culture.

“That’s enough!,” the ads scream. “Stop unlimited invasion of mainland pregnant women!”

The full page ad which depicts a locust looking at the Hong Kong skyline, also ran with the following statements.

“We tolerate your scrambling for infant formulas because we know that you are victims of poisonous milk powder.

“We share education resources with you because we know that China’s education system is backward. We use simplified Chinese in the following line because we know that you cannot read traditional Chinese.

“Please respect our culture when you are here in Hong Kong, you couldn’t live without Hong Kong.”

It follows weeks of tensions between the Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong citizens, after Kong Qing-Dong, a professor at Peking University called HongKongers “running dogs for British imperialists.”

The HKGolden Forum calls itself one of the top online discussion boards in Hong Kong, gathering a “loyal base of Tech Savvy consumers, IT Professionals and Enthusiasts who are energetic, expressive and opinion leader in the community.”

The forum covers topics from IT, to academic affairs, sports, travel, entertainment and now, more than ever, social issues.

Apart from today’s print ads, the group has turned to Facebook where it is attracting a lot of attention.

So far more than 102,000 people have joined a Facebook group It’s Time to Say No, with more than 20,000 conversations taking place around the Facebook page.

Denny Ho Kwok-leung, associate professor at Polytechnic University’s Department of Applied Social Science, told the South China Morning Post that placing the ad in a mainstream newspaper indicated the row was unlikely to end any time soon.

The group claimed to have raised HK$100,000 in less than a week to run the ads. Full page ad in Apple Daily run at around HK$50,000, with a half page at $26,000.

Apple Daily told Marketing that protest ads were allowed on its front page, but they are subject to approval from editorial and its team of lawyers. Posting an ad in the main news section is not as restrictive.

 

[PanAsian]

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More mob violence against ordinary citzens, one thing I can say about these mobs. They are not racist, ageist, or sexist. They beat everyone the same!

No, they are very much racist against mainland Chinese and like you yourself said, they are also anti-CCP/PRC ideologues.