Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

KFX

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By all accounts it seem to me that we will eventually see a Type 31 airframe - probably a navalized version given the issues with the J-15. If the program gets state sponsorship I doubt there will be an export version. The difficulty will be getting there and will not be easy building one as China's experience is limited to a reverse engineered J-15.
There was this a few weeks back on the FC-31, where a researcher said progress is being made...whatever that means.
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taxiya

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I wise man my friend! wish I would have done that a few times! LOL

So gentlemen? is it possible that the FC-31 could still move forward? I hate to admit it, but I'm a little disappointed, I haven't given up hope, but my former confidence is waning.....
:D, you were quick to read what I was trying to say "the other possibility of joint production of J-20" related to the highlighted texts in yellow "(601) collaborating with 606 on program".

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The reason I deleted my post was that this is a cooperation of institute 601 (Shenyang) with institute 606 (Chengdu) on project collaboration. If it is about joint production of J-20, it would be more appropriate to be a statement by SAC or by CAC instead of 601. Because 601 and 606 are research institutes, SAC and CAC are manufacturers. Although they are bundled in pairs as 601+SAC and 606+CAC, they would still go directly to their counterparts.

Since it is 601 and 606, and J-20 research is over, the likely collaboration on an ongoing project would be FC-31, or something with similar role (Naval jet). The "worst" scenario could be a navalized J-20 which 601 can contribute their expertise obtained from J-15 such as launch, landing hooks and tests. The "best" scenario would be a FC-31, but then I wonder what 606 can contribute. Stealthy shaping, material, avionics are the expertise of many other institutes, 606 was the integrator only. As to the basic design, J-20 and FC-31 are so different, 606 may be able to share some general experience, but not specifics.

To summarize, I don't see much information can be extracted from this report.
 

mys_721tx

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:D, you were quick to read what I was trying to say "the other possibility of joint production of J-20" related to the highlighted texts in yellow "(601) collaborating with 606 on program".

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The reason I deleted my post was that this is a cooperation of institute 601 (Shenyang) with institute 606 (Chengdu) on project collaboration. If it is about joint production of J-20, it would be more appropriate to be a statement by SAC or by CAC instead of 601. Because 601 and 606 are research institutes, SAC and CAC are manufacturers. Although they are bundled in pairs as 601+SAC and 606+CAC, they would still go directly to their counterparts.

Since it is 601 and 606, and J-20 research is over, the likely collaboration on an ongoing project would be FC-31, or something with similar role (Naval jet). The "worst" scenario could be a navalized J-20 which 601 can contribute their expertise obtained from J-15 such as launch, landing hooks and tests. The "best" scenario would be a FC-31, but then I wonder what 606 can contribute. Stealthy shaping, material, avionics are the expertise of many other institutes, 606 was the integrator only. As to the basic design, J-20 and FC-31 are so different, 606 may be able to share some general experience, but not specifics.

To summarize, I don't see much information can be extracted from this report.

606th is Shenyang Liming Aeroengine's institute. 611th is CAC's institute.
 

Air Force Brat

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By all accounts it seem to me that we will eventually see a Type 31 airframe - probably a navalized version given the issues with the J-15. If the program gets state sponsorship I doubt there will be an export version. The difficulty will be getting there and will not be easy building one as China's experience is limited to a reverse engineered J-15.

I am hopeful that we will, but don't be to hard on the J-15, I think its a damn fine airplane, once they get a slingshot onboard #3, you will see the J-15 capability go way up when she can launch with full fuel and ordinance.

But no doubt the FC-31 would be a very useful aircraft for Fleet Air Defense, a lot is riding on powerplants....
 

by78

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Approach for landing...

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