Burning Tankers, the Strait of Hormuz situation 6/2019

Khalij e Fars

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Iran also displayed the first wreckage of the downed RQ-4 that it recovered from its waters [the US said they were going to international waters to find wreckage - what happened?]:

 

AssassinsMace

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Trump said he called off the attack 10 minutes before the strike. Most likely it would've been cruise missiles launched from US Navy ships. So did Trump have the US Navy push the self-destruct bottom or is that a Hollywood thing? A million dollars per missile... we probably would heard about that.
 
Yesterday at 6:02 PM
I'll say it on the main board:

if I were you, I'd be more careful about the Pentagon's stories under the circumstances;

just listen to Tucker Carlson since 02:58 in

EDIT
while I'm no pacifist, I can see even conservative circles are now let's say astute
and
Two Fox News hosts question Trump's comments about Iran: 'This just doesn't add up'
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Fox News hosts Chris Wallace and Shep Smith challenged President Donald Trump's comments about when and why he decided to
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.
Trump said Friday that the military was "cocked and loaded" to fire on Iran in retaliation for shooting down a US drone
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. But he reversed course "10 minutes before the strike" when he learned 150 people could die in the attack, the president said in a series of tweets.
Smith said Fox News' reporting found that Trump would have been given a casualty estimate at a briefing hours before that.
"Something's wrong there," Smith said about the president's comments.
Wallace also had questions.
"I talked to a former top national security official in an earlier Republican administration who says this just doesn't add up," Wallace said during a midday segment Friday.
"The timeline for when he learned information and when he decided to act doesn't make a lot of sense," Wallace told Shep during the Fox News segment. "Maybe that's the biggest problem. You could argue: if you don't want to strike, don't strike. If you want to strike, do strike — but don't send mixed messages that confuse not only your enemies, but even your allies and people here in this country."
Smith then questioned Trump's decision to "tweet out the whole thought process of American foreign policy and intervention."
"That's an observation," he added. "Not a critique."
Trump has a
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with Fox News. He's hired a
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of former employees from the network to posts within his administration.
The president also
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corresponds directly with Fox News hosts like
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and Sean Hannity, conservative firebrands who currently host evening programs that routinely praise the president.
Smith, who hosts daytime news coverage, and Wallace, the anchor of Fox News Sunday, have
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from Fox's opinion-oriented colleagues. Smith and Wallace have previously questioned or
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actions by Trump or his administration.
 

Just4Fun

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P-8 Poseidon aircraft do not carry 35 people as stated by the above article. A crew of 7 would be normal. I'm intrigued as to how the Iranians could see into a windowless fuselage to begin with.

Your argument doesn't constitute an educated refutal.
The key point here is that Iran had the opportunity and the ability to shoot down that particular US military plane derived from Boeing 737 at that time. Whether it contained 35 human beings, or 35 pigs, or 100 ducks, is irrelevant.
 
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US retaliated against Iranian spy group's cyberstrike
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US Cyber Command launched a retaliatory cyberstrike last week against an Iranian spy group, according to a US official and a former US intelligence official familiar with the matter.
USCC attacked the spy group, which has ties to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, after Iran attacked ships in the region, the officials said.
The US official added the online strike targeted an Iranian spy group's computer software that was used to track the tankers that were targeted in the Gulf of Oman on June 13.
A spokesman for the Pentagon would not comment on the matter Saturday, saying that "as a matter of policy and for operational security, we do not discuss cyberspace operations, intelligence or planning."
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first reported the US cyberstrike against Iran.
The exchanged attacks come following a tumultuous week between the two countries.
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, prompting President Donald Trump to pursue a retaliatory strike against Iran.
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-- with the US "cocked & loaded"-- 10 minutes before the strike because he decided there would be too many deaths for a proportionate response to the downing of an American drone.
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for his abrupt decision to reverse course.
The former US intelligence official told CNN that in recent months there has been an increase in Iranian cyber activity against Gulf targets, like Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, as well as US targets. Iranian forces' cyber capabilities have improved in recent years, and while they often outsource their efforts to Russians, it is expected that the Iranians carried out this attack themselves.
The Department of Homeland Security announced Saturday that Iran has recently increased cyberattacks against US industry and government agencies as tension peaked between the countries this week.
Christopher Krebs, the director of DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said in a statement that his agency "is aware of a recent rise in malicious cyber activity directed at United States industries and government agencies by Iranian regime actors and proxies."
"We will continue to work with our intelligence community and cybersecurity partners to monitor Iranian cyber activity, share information, and take steps to keep America and our allies safe," he added.
Krebs said Iranian state actors and proxies are increasingly using "destructive 'wiper' attacks" that are capable of not only stealing data and money but taking down an organization's entire computer network.
 

Khalij e Fars

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Trump said he called off the attack 10 minutes before the strike. Most likely it would've been cruise missiles launched from US Navy ships. So did Trump have the US Navy push the self-destruct bottom or is that a Hollywood thing? A million dollars per missile... we probably would heard about that.
Trump clarified and rebuked that.

He said he asked for a meeting to confirm and not to do anything before that meeting. Then he said in the meeting he rejected it. The 10 minutes story is total BS.

I don't think Trump was ever going to attack, they just wanted to do nothing and try to still send a signal.
 
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