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According to USNI news, the drone was not a Triton but a modified Global Hawk BAMS-D. The Triton is to reach IOC in 2021.

What complicates the US response is the possibility of drawing first blood in retaliation. Does downing of an UAV justify that?
 
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US Navy stands up 1st MQ-4C Triton Squadron, VUP-19 to be deployed to Western Pacific this summer or Fall

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TE do we set up a thread about the downed Triton? I mean kibitzes are coming here who haven't posted anything
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related before
Double post
 
I already opened a thread on the tanker bombings. Since this happened in the same area with the same major player I figured might as well keep it in the same thread.
OK everybody please (LOL they'll ignore) discuss the current events related to the Persian Gulf in
Burning Tankers, the Strait of Hormuz situation 6/2019
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/burning-tankers-the-strait-of-hormuz-situation-6-2019.t8542/


for example
4 minutes ago
now this is interesting (
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57 min ago
Pentagon is walking a "fine line" by defending without tipping over into provocation, official says
not here
 

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When I saw the notification on my phone I assumed it was a small UAV and ignored it, but they actually bagged an RQ-4, wow.

Iran is likely correct that it was operating in Iranian airspace, and almost certainly believed that to be the case. The major uncertainty is whether the US violation was deliberate or accidental. Regardless, given the broader international situation, Iran was certainly justified in shooting it down and not allowing their territorial integrity to be infringed by a hostile power.

P.S. When the USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655, the US Navy claimed to be in international waters and this claim was echoed at the highest levels of the US government. This was later demonstrated to be a lie and the Vincennes was in fact operating in Iranian territorial waters. US gov has zero credibility on this subject.
 
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7. Navy mulls frigate choices


sounds like I'll make it or break with the FFG(X) cancellation prediction Oct 30, 2018
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and
Navy Issues Final RFP for FFG(X) Next-Generation Frigate
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The Navy released the final request for proposals for its next guided-missile frigate (FFG(X)) today, outlining the program that will get the U.S. Navy into the business of operating high-end small combatants.

The service is counting on the new frigate to help the fleet operate in a distributed manner in a contested maritime environment. To that end, the final solicitation for bids for the FFG(X) program highlights a particular interest in what industry can offer in range; margins for weight, cooling, electrical and arrangeable deck area, to allow the ship to bring in new technologies as they develop; acoustic signature management; undersea surveillance; and over-the-horizon capabilities.

After previous iterations of the frigate were ditched as the Navy’s view of what capability it wanted evolved, the current FFG(X) effort sought to bring in industry early to ensure that requirements were in line with what technologies were currently feasible at the right price point. Those ongoing discussions led the Navy to settle on a ship that would have at least 32 vertical launching system (VLS) cells, an Aegis-based combat system, the Cooperative Engagement Capability datalink so the frigate could share targeting data with other ships and aircraft, and advanced anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare systems.

The service announced earlier this year the frigate would include as government-furnished equipment:
  • A fixed-face Raytheon Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar (EASR) that will serve as the primary air search radar.
  • At least 32 Mark 41 Vertical Launch System cells that could field Standard Missile 2 Block IIICs or RIM-162 Evolved SeaSparrow Missiles (ESSM) and a planned vertically launched anti-submarine warfare weapon.
  • COMBATSS-21 Combat Management System based on the Aegis Combat System.
  • Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) datalink that would allow the frigate to share targeting information with other ships and aircraft.
  • Space, weight and cooling for 8 to 16 Over-the-Horizon Anti-Ship Cruise Missiles
  • An aviation detachment that includes an MH-60R Seahawk helicopter and an MQ-8C Firescout Unmanned Aerial Vehicle.
  • AN/SQQ-89(V)15 Surface Ship Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) Combat System
  • AN/SQS-62 Variable Depth Sonar.
  • SLQ-32(V)6 Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP) Block 2 electronic warfare suite with allowances to include SEWIP Block 3 Lite in the future.
  • Space, weight and cooling reservation for a 150-kilowatt laser.
Further highlighting the focus on allowing the ships to be upgraded as technology evolves, the solicitation asks that bids include a “description of the flexibility in the design to accommodate efficient warfare systems upgrades by explaining equipment removal and upgrade paths with an emphasis on avoiding hull cuts or the need for dry docking,” as well as provisions for upgrading hull-mounted and towed undersea warfare sensors.

Five industry teams have been involved in early design maturation efforts, which both helped industry refine their plans to be more in line with what the Navy wanted, and allowed the Navy to refine its idea of how much this new class might cost.

Earlier this year,
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as a result of the design maturation contracts.

“$950 (million) was the threshold; $800 million is the objective,” frigate program manager with Program Executive Office Unmanned and Small Combatants Regan Campbell said in January at the Surface Navy Association symposium.
“We started closer to the $950; we are trending to very close to the $800 now. We have taken some very significant costs out,” she said of the second through 10th ship of the class. The Navy intends to buy at least 20 frigates, though the first contract will only cover the first 10. After the first contract, the Navy could continue with the same builder or re-compete the program to potentially bring in a second builder, if it wanted to accelerate frigate production to keep in line with its drive to reach a 355-ship fleet and leadership acknowledgement that it will need more small combatants and fewer high-end destroyers going forward.

After the release of today’s final RFP, interested bidders will have until Aug. 22 to submit their technical proposals to the Navy and until Sept. 26 to submit their pricing proposal. A winner will be selected in Fiscal Year 2020 to build the frigate.

Of the five companies that participated in the design maturation phase, four are expected to submit bids to the RFP. Austal USA, who builds the Independence-variant Littoral Combat Ship; Fincantieri Marine, which builds the Italian FREMM multipurpose frigate; General Dynamics Bath Iron Works, who will partner with Spanish F100-builder Navantia; and Ingalls Shipbuilding, who has declined to discuss its design, all worked with the Navy to take their existing parent designs and mature them to become in line with the Navy’s vision for its guided-missile frigate. Lockheed Martin, which builds the Freedom-variant LCS, was part of that effort as well but
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Despite the earlier design work that the Navy funded, the frigate competition is open to any bidder who has a parent design to base the frigate offering on.

as for the "costs were coming down" hoopla inside, there's in fact 1200+m requested for one FFG(X) in the USN FY2020 proposal
EDIT I could link now, but nobody reads this
 
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haven't heard of #3 of
Five names to watch as Trump searches for his next defense secretary
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Trump to Nominate Mark Esper as SecDef, Ryan McCarthy as Army Secretary
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After allowing Patrick Shanahan to serve as acting defense secretary for 168 days without a nomination to the post, President Donald Trump is moving to nominate his replacement before he even arrives in the role.

On Friday evening, Trump announced his intent to nominate Army Secretary Mark Esper for secretary of defense. Esper was set to step up as acting defense secretary Monday after Trump announced earlier this week that Shanahan would not continue to pursue nomination, following reports of an FBI investigation into two troubled domestic incidents in 2010 and 2011.

In the same announcement, Trump said he would nominate David Norquist, who has been serving as acting defense secretary, to that position; and Ryan McCarthy, under secretary of the Army, as the service's secretary.

Esper was also set to represent the U.S. at the NATO Defense Ministerial in Brussels, Belgium next week.

However, due to the
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, Esper will not be able to step into the role if his formal nomination does closely follow Trump's announcement. In most cases, the law does not allow a secretary nominee to fill the roll in acting capacity.

A Pentagon spokeswoman, Jessica Maxwell, told Military.com an official nomination has yet to be received.

"As of right now, we don't have anything official that he's been nominated yet," she said. "We'll just have to wait for an official nomination to come through."

According to the formal line of succession, the position of acting defense secretary would default to
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Secretary Richard Spencer if Trump does not name another candidate.

Esper, who served 10 years as an Army infantry officer and later became vice president of government relations at defense contractor Raytheon, has served as Army secretary since late 2017. A Gulf War veteran, his awards include the Legion of Merit and Bronze Star.

Other roles he has held include Capitol Hill staffer, working on national security issues for Sens. Chuck Hagel, Fred Thompson, and then-Majority Leader Bill Frist. Hagel would last become defense secretary. He also has worked as a staff member on the Senate Foreign Relations and House Armed Services committees and served as Executive Vice President of the Aerospace Industries Association of America.

Like Shanahan, whose prior work as an executive with defense contractor Boeing would haunt him as acting defense secretary, Esper's work at Raytheon could prove a bone of contention. As Army Secretary, Esper has recused himself in dealings with his former employer, which makes an array of missile technology for the Pentagon.

As
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, Esper's history could limit his ability to participate in ongoing negotiations with Turkey over its acquisition of the Russian S-400 missile system.

Norquist, the prospective nominee for deputy secretary of defense, currently wears two hats, performing the duties of deputy defense secretary and serving as the Pentagon's chief financial officer. He has been filling the role of deputy defense secretary since Jan. 1, when Jim Mattis vacated the position of SecDef and Shanahan, then the deputy, moved up.

Norquist was sworn in as Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)/Chief Financial Officer on June 2017. He previously worked as a partner with CPA firm Kearney and Company, and has spent nearly two decades as a federal employee, working with the Department of the Army, on Capitol Hill, and as chief financial officer for the Department of Homeland Security.

McCarthy, the current under secretary of the Army, has held the role of acting Army secretary once before. He served in the position from August to November 2017 prior to Esper's confirmation to the post.

Before then, McCarthy served at yet another major defense contractor, Lockheed Martin Corp., where he was vice president for the sustainment program for the
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. A former
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, he has also served in the past as special assistant to Defense Secretary Robert Gates and as vice president of commercial financing for the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation.

In his role as Army under secretary, McCarthy was viewed as a rising star, making frequent public appearances and taking an active role in efforts to revitalize service recruitment and modernize along six specific lines of effort.
 
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