F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

cyan1320

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F-35 Joint Strike Fighters at Williamtown RAAF base susceptible to 'intergranular corrosion', KPMG report finds
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"Australian defence officials have been urged to consider round-the-clock dehumidification systems at an Air Force base near Newcastle to curb the corrosion risk for its fleet of Joint Strike Fighter jets."
 

Brumby

Major
sounds like every body goes hypersonic these days LOL

Speed matters especially against time sensitive targets. When put in perspective.


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A target 2500 kms away will take 2 hours 30 mins for a sub sonic missile to reach target. In contrast, a missile travelling at Mach 20 will only take 6 minutes to reach target. The HTV-2 made 2 flights in 2011 reaching Mach 20 in both instance but because it did not meet minimum program objective it was considered a failure. The TBG missile in the drive article is based off the learnings of the HTV-2 program.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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F-35 Joint Strike Fighters at Williamtown RAAF base susceptible to 'intergranular corrosion', KPMG report finds
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"Australian defence officials have been urged to consider round-the-clock dehumidification systems at an Air Force base near Newcastle to curb the corrosion risk for its fleet of Joint Strike Fighter jets."

Its ABC, and neither Giselle nor Rick are defense journalists, I mean really, all airplanes will corrode in a moist salty environment, so keeping them dry and clean is an awesome idea.... even the birds in England are deemed NOT to be at risk...
 
May 30, 2017
... I checked myself what I found in Internet ... well it doesn't seem to make sense but:

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says 'Lot IX' $698032385

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says 'Lot IX' $60000000

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says spares for Lot 9 $237765479

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says nonrecurring items for 'Lot IX' for $431322997

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several items for Lot 9 $430878490

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something for 'Lot IX' for $120555991

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says 'Lot IX' $ for $5370955495

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several items for Lot 9 $181765203

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says Lot 9 $743169377

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this one is particularly funny: "... to provide additional funding for affordability-based cost reduction initiatives in support of low-rate initial production Lot 9 F-35 ..." $137834819

LOL I skipped several contracts below $100m but still:
698032385+60000000+237765479+431322997+430878490+120555991+5370955495+181765203+743169377+137834819 = 8,412,280,236
(of course they said 'a $6.1 billion deal'
Lockheed ‘Disappointed’ by Pentagon’s Latest F-35 Contract November 2, 2016
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)
8412280236/57 is almost 148m ... for one of Lot 9 without an engine and so called LOT 9 AIRFRAME UPGRADE AND RETROFIT CONTRACTS
... apparently also documented in the mind-boggling link
Unit Cost of F-35s Delivered This Year Still Exceeds $206M
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now
rice Drop: Lockheed Pitches $80M F-35A to Pentagon
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That’s the cheapest price yet for the Air Force version of the fifth-generation jet.

Lockheed Martin is offering to come down more than 10% on the price of the least-expensive F-35 as it negotiates the largest sale yet of Joint Strike Fighters.

The company is offering to sell the Pentagon about 100 F-35As — the version flown by the U.S. Air Force and most allies — for less than $80 million each, down from
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in the deal signed last September. That price point suggests the company will meet its
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for the warplane, whose lengthy development and higher-than-expected initial costs have drawn much criticism.

The 100 F-35A are part of a block buy of three production lots of the jets — in all, roughly 450 jets. The order will include F-35Bs for the Marine Corps, F-35Cs for the U.S. Navy, and a variety of the jets for allies.

“We currently have an offer submitted to the Department of Defense for Lots 12-14 that is below the $80 million F-35A for lot 14 in 2020, per our longstanding commitment,” company spokesman Mike Friedman wrote in an email Tuesday. “This represents equal or less than the procurement cost of legacy jets, while providing a generational leap in capability.”

The latest round of F-35 negotiations come as the Air Force is planning to buy new Boeing-made F-15 Eagle fighters for the first time in two decades. While the new Eagles would replace existing F-15s, Lockheed
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the F-35 is a cheaper alternative and offers stealth and other technology that comes standard in a more modern, fifth-generation warplane.

The proposed purchase of
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is meant to get a better price than past years’ annual purchases of a few dozen of the jets. A 2018
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put the potential savings at more than $2 billion.

Lockheed has delivered more than 385 F-35s to the U.S. Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and American allies.

“As we ramp up production, each year we have lowered cost, reduced build time, improved quality and on time delivery,” Friedman said. “Moving forward, we are focused on and taking action to further reduce costs across both production and sustainment.”
 

Brumby

Major
as for how these birds would stack up? the J-20 is probably in the same league L/O, likely similar in maneuverability, has more fuel, more top-end, advantage J-20. The Su-57 is likely the most agile, again has more top-end, more fuel, possibly more high altitude capability, advantage Su-57...

So the J-20 and Su-57 have some basic airframe advantages which many here consider a real tactical advantage, on the other hand the F-35 likely has the lowest all aspect L/O number, better EOTS, more agile radar, and much better sensor fusion with a much larger number of platforms communicating and fusing information to one another.... couple that with superior aerial refueling, and AWACs support, and you have a clear winner...
In discussing capabilities I think we should consider the distinction between claimed/assumed versus demonstrated/proven capabilities. For instance a few weeks ago I questioned the true state of AESA radar development in China given difficulties that other countries had encountered with their own experience such as the Japanese, the Russians with cooling issues and the US with the APG-79. Obviously there were significant push back in this forum. The DOD report issued last week to Congress actually reported on page 70 that they believe besides engines (which is common knowledge), the Chinese are having difficulty with the radars.

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Another aspect that I think will become more important when we consider 5th generation airframes is the question of IR signatures. We know that both the F-22 and F-35 have adopted significant IR suppressions giving all aspect IR reduction to the F-22 and significant flow on technology adoption to the F-35. The question is what has the Chinese and Russians done by comparison?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Nice video of an F-35A..honestly I don't see the aircraft doing anything I've not seen in the last 47 years...Jaw dropping? NOT!

I can see how you could say that and you are more or less correct compared F16 at air shows have done the same. But F35 does it with equipment that wouldn't be on an air show plane.
F35 has intigrated systems that would be external pods on F16 or Hornet or super Hornet. That would be carried externally in any other fighter and never on an air show demo due to drag. It has an intigrated jammer and radar warning recever array. It has a Targeting pod and full axis IR sensor suite of those only the raptor has something close but lacks the targeting pod and towed decoys jammer system. These would be add on pods and modules that would never fly on a demo.
It's maneuvering with a full equipment load as baseline.
And it could even be armed without the drag penalties.
A way to compare it would be like a tourist smartphone today vs just a few years back.
Back in the day you could tell a tourist with the camera equipment, site seeing map, fanny pack of travelers checks and the like.
Today it's all in the phone. Camera, maps, credit card and payment apps. That the F35. All the stuff they had to bolt on or load instead of drop tanks bombs and missiles is in the plane already.
 

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Tyrant King
@Air Force Brat @Jeff Head @Jura @Brumby and more.
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So the 65th Aggressor Squadron will be flying again. But in F35 Panthers.65thag-emblem.jpg previously they operated from 2005-2014 flying F15 now they will by flying early model F35.
I love aggressor camo but this is likely the look near term I pulled it off the official Facebook page of the wing commander of the 57th 59973509_345811129342432_4174329597459955712_n.png.jpg
Thems Black Panthers.
Clearly this was inspired by J31. And that is a F16 sporting some "Ruski" Style digital Shark.
The unit is said to get its birds in early 2022. When they are transferred from Elgin
 
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