F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

No, its great to share developmental and production costs.
no, "great" would be just to sell the product without sharing anything

I agree with you that the supply chain should be as short as possible.
oh do you

ironically it was the USA that perfected logistics in the past, to come up later with the F-35 scrambled from parts from all over the world

Its awesome to have as many end users buying and operating a common airframe, that my friend has driven costs way down, and the F-35 is an extremely agile powerful aircraft kinematically, what it does electronically is almost miraculous.
OK no hard feelings LOL
 

Brumby

Major
in Japan Thread

you claimed it was great to have so many industrial participants in the program Today at 7:16 AM
while this is a ridiculous idea according to me:
supply chain should be as SHORT as possible, not as LONG as possible

The supply chain associated with the F-35 is partially driven by the politics of the program because it involved multi countries. Each wanted a share in the economic pie and each got a share in return. Performance and logistics consideration risks probably became secondary in the scheme of things provided they meet certain performance metrics. With Turkey's imminent departure from the program, there will invariably be some form of disruption to the supply chain. Every business/operating model has disruptions - just deal with it like any management problem.
 
The supply chain associated with the F-35 is partially driven by the politics of the program because it involved multi countries. Each wanted a share in the economic pie and each got a share in return. Performance and logistics consideration risks probably became secondary in the scheme of things provided they meet certain performance metrics. With Turkey's imminent departure from the program, there will invariably be some form of disruption to the supply chain. Every business/operating model has disruptions - just deal with it like any management problem.
I've been wondering for some time how the F-35 supply chain is diversified;

for example (that's a quote from Jul 23, 2016)

Aselsan is developing manufacturing approaches for advanced optical components, which are part of the F-35 Electro Optical Targeting System.

so what if a credible information came these components (I repeat that's just an example, and I'm looking forward to hear from nitpickers)
wouldn't be available anymore? what happens next?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Some of this is redundant. I mean had Turkey gotten online with production do you think they would have allowed so much as a single screw to be sold to Isreal? Same for Japan and South Korea. As such you would have overlaps in production.
But since only a few parts of the foreign manufacturing are online at the moment most of it would be U.S. made. With the aim of making those parts for later export units.
 

Brumby

Major
I've been wondering for some time how the F-35 supply chain is diversified;

for example (that's a quote from Jul 23, 2016)

Aselsan is developing manufacturing approaches for advanced optical components, which are part of the F-35 Electro Optical Targeting System.

so what if a credible information came these components (I repeat that's just an example, and I'm looking forward to hear from nitpickers)
wouldn't be available anymore? what happens next?

I would not know how robust is their program against non performers but as TE alluded some contingent measures would likely be built into their pipeline.
 

Brumby

Major
There was a relatively serious issue raised during at sea preparation for IOC of the F-35C late last year that concerns a "green-glow" coming off the AMLCD display of the Gen III helmet. The display's backlighting produces a green glow that can obscure the outside environment particularly in low visibility conditions. It made it difficult for pilots to detect outside light sources. The fix via a OLED display was scheduled this year. In the interim, inexperienced F-35C pilots were not allow to fly at night while at sea. I am not sure on the status of the conversion to the new helmet. Something to bear in mind as we await information on the cause of the missing F-35A at sea.
 

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Airmen from the 388th and 419th Fighter Wings file onto a 747 at Hill Air Force Base, Utah, bound for the Middle East to support the F-35As first deployment there. The Airmen arrived at Al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates this week to support the Air Force Central Command mission. (United States Air Force photo by R. Nial Bradshaw)

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An F-35A taxis prior to departing from Hill Air Force Base, Utah. The Airmen were bound for the Middle East to support the F-35As first deployment there. They arrived at Al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates this week to support the Air Force Central Command mission. (United States Air Force photo by R. Nial Bradshaw)

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Lt. Col. Yosef Morris, 4th Fighter Squadron commander, with the 388th Fighter Wing, taxis prior to launching on the F-35As first deployment to the Middle East. Airmen in the 388th and 419th Fighter Wings arrived at Al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates this week to support the Air Force Central Command mission. (United States Air Force photo by R. Nial Bradshaw)

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A pilot with the 388th Fighter Wing waits to taxi prior to launching on the F-35As first deployment to the Middle East. Airmen in the 388th and 419th Fighter Wings arrived at Al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates this week to support the Air Force Central Command mission. (United States Air Force photo by R. Nial Bradshaw)

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There was a relatively serious issue raised during at sea preparation for IOC of the F-35C late last year that concerns a "green-glow" coming off the AMLCD display of the Gen III helmet. ...
I heard of it ... Aug 17, 2016
minutes ago noted "The pilots are checking out the third generation helmets to ensure the brightness of the symbology displayed does not interfere with their ability to see the carrier as they land at night — they are waiting for moonless nights before doing the tests." in
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now found more:
Pilots to Test Fix for F-35 Helmet ‘Green Glow’ Problem

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didn't know, actually think I saw a statement the Raptors in the Emirates base would be replaced by F-15s

now I see "In February 2019, the Air Force
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it had withdrawn its F-22s from this same base in the UAE and replaced them with
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, instead."
inside
U.S. Air Force F-35A's First Combat Deployment To The Middle East Has Begun
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