052C/052D Class Destroyers

Blitzo

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would these 4 ships get launched at the same time?

no. similar to the launch of two 055s from DL earlier this year, two ships closest to the water will be launched while the two ships in earlier stages of construction will remain separated from the water with a wall
 

asif iqbal

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If there's a hot war they are going to need every single one of those in service just to contend the seas within the 1st island chain.

I think China is in good shape now

looking into the future for VLS count in a few years time

FFG 30 x 32 = 960
DDG 48 x 6 = 288
DDG 64 x 24 = 1536
CG 112 x 8 = 896

thats 3680 missiles rough estimate since the older refitted units have not been taken into account

thats approximately 1/3 of USN
 

Bhurki

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I think China is in good shape now

looking into the future for VLS count in a few years time

FFG 30 x 32 = 960
DDG 48 x 6 = 288
DDG 64 x 24 = 1536
CG 112 x 8 = 896

thats 3680 missiles rough estimate since the older refitted units have not been taken into account

thats approximately 1/3 of USN
Capability of each vls is different ... The vls on ffg can only operate for SAM systems..
We are still not sure whether each uvls on type 052d and type 055 are of same length or not ( 9m,7m?) limiting their usage to a single category of missile. Each vls on AB class and Ticos are however standard Mk41. So each can carry a SAM/anti ship missile(also quad pack).
Comparing raw number of vls seems kind of obtuse since USN ships are optimized for their own class of contingencies.
You could liewise compare type 022 (83x8) 664 missiles to the ohio ssgn (7x22 x 4 ships) 616 missiles, but it doesnt make much sense..
 

Biscuits

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I think China is in good shape now

looking into the future for VLS count in a few years time

FFG 30 x 32 = 960
DDG 48 x 6 = 288
DDG 64 x 24 = 1536
CG 112 x 8 = 896

thats 3680 missiles rough estimate since the older refitted units have not been taken into account

thats approximately 1/3 of USN

Kind of nitpicking but it’s important to say that China does not have any CGs. 055s are DDGs and there’s no indication that they will ever be used for CG roles.
 

Tam

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Capability of each vls is different ... The vls on ffg can only operate for SAM systems..
We are still not sure whether each uvls on type 052d and type 055 are of same length or not ( 9m,7m?) limiting their usage to a single category of missile. Each vls on AB class and Ticos are however standard Mk41. So each can carry a SAM/anti ship missile(also quad pack).
Comparing raw number of vls seems kind of obtuse since USN ships are optimized for their own class of contingencies.
You could liewise compare type 022 (83x8) 664 missiles to the ohio ssgn (7x22 x 4 ships) 616 missiles, but it doesnt make much sense..

VLS for FFG can operate both SAM and ASROC. Those two but those two only.

As for 052D, we know that YJ-18 is loaded in the front VLS and is fired there, and the YJ-18 in VLS form would likely require a 9m long tube. The rear is more subject to question in terms of length. The other question is whether there is a shorter ASM, as 7m is big enough to fit subsonic ASMs and cruise missiles.
 

asif iqbal

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I think you guys are getting carried away

how many VLS units did PLAN have 10 years ago? how many ASW units did PLAN have 10 years ago ?

it was just to show how far Chinese navy has come in terms of overall development

the details and missile types is just waste of discussion
 

antiterror13

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VLS for FFG can operate both SAM and ASROC. Those two but those two only.

As for 052D, we know that YJ-18 is loaded in the front VLS and is fired there, and the YJ-18 in VLS form would likely require a 9m long tube. The rear is more subject to question in terms of length. The other question is whether there is a shorter ASM, as 7m is big enough to fit subsonic ASMs and cruise missiles.

true .. and it is well known that at least 16 UVLS on 052D are 9m long, my opinion is ... would be more, like 24
 

A.Man

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I think China is in good shape now

looking into the future for VLS count in a few years time

FFG 30 x 32 = 960
DDG 48 x 6 = 288
DDG 64 x 24 = 1536
CG 112 x 8 = 896

thats 3680 missiles rough estimate since the older refitted units have not been taken into account

thats approximately 1/3 of USN
Don’t forget:
2 x 051C (48) = 96
1 x 051B = 32
4 x Sov (32) = 128

In addition, there are countless HQ-10 Sea Ram like missiles.
 
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