J-10 Thread IV

weig2000

Captain
'rumours' are indicating the possibility of off the shelf purchase for ~40 J-10CE with the option of 32-40 more as follow on order .... but AGAIN as of now this must be taken as a RUMOUR

With that kind of number of intended purchase, I'd be shocked if Pakistan does not require at least some batches of domestic production, building on top of and extending the current JF-17 production capability.
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
Production run of JF-17 Thunders is subject Pakistan Air Force's requirements. As stated previously in news reports, Pakistan Air Force requires Thunders to replace a sizable amount of F-7s and Mirages. Judging by the number of F-7s and Mirages in Pakistan Air Force's fighter fleet, Thunder production wouldn't end anytime soon.
 

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With that kind of number of intended purchase, I'd be shocked if Pakistan does not require at least some batches of domestic production, building on top of and extending the current JF-17 production capability.
Nope no domestic production for two reasons
1- First IF (again let me repeat its a rumour/chatter or buzz whatever you like to say it) we go for first batch of J-10CE second batch order might be delayed for sometime as this will be dependent on the progress of PAF next gen fighter program named Azam; this purchase of first batch if occur will be made as stopgap purchase
2- PAF commitment with JF-17 production which may face hindrance if another in house production is initiated for number of reasons like
- shortage of trained manpower related to production in aviation sector
- its not be cheap to setup and maintain production facility for such a small number of jets

What PAF may seek with this deal might be a MRO facility with limited production rights for some necessary spares for J-10CE
 

DGBJCLAU

New Member
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TVC is not an intriguing factor for PAF

well an ex-serviceman who served with one of the defence services of Pakistan commented on this photo
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What did I say huh? It's not hard to deduct reasonable factors involved in PAF's decision-making. Their requirements and constraints are clear.

I also think if the PAF finds the J-10C desirable as claimed in the news, they'd have thought so because of the recent joint drill (Shaheen-VII). The TVC is nice to have but the overall performance especially the avionics should be much more important.
 

Rauf

New Member
Actually Mirage Rebuild Factory could be converted to J-10C assembly Factory, but it would mean no Rebuild/Overhaul for existing Mirages. The M-III and M-V will have to retire as they come up for overhaul. Not sure if PAF is ready to let go of the M-III ROSE builds yet unless J-10CE would be replacing the ROSE squadrons and JF-17 the other Mirage Squadrons.
 

defenceman

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I find the news of PAF wanting J-10x quite surprising. The main advantages of J-10 I imagine would be in avionics. If PAF truly does follow through with J-10C or later J-10 variants, it would be quite revealing of how much better the J-10's avionics suite is compared to even the future block JF-17s. Slightly better combat load, range, and performance certainly cannot justify all the different costs involved with inducting a different, unfamiliar platform using an unfamiliar Russian engine. Therefore any purchase should indicate that the J-10 offers certain electronic abilities to the PAF that is not obvious or well known.
Hi can it a possibility in coming future to CFT on j10c with the present engine if it’s a possibility might be a better
Option for PAF to have j10c with much better avionics beside better combat load and more range to cover instead
Of IFR option
Your comments
Thank you
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
Hi can it a possibility in coming future to CFT on j10c with the present engine if it’s a possibility might be a better
Option for PAF to have j10c with much better avionics beside better combat load and more range to cover instead
Of IFR option
Your comments
Thank you

It all depends on whether CAC manages to secure sizable orders, not just from Pakistan, rather new markets, like in Africa, South America and South East Asia. When there is a growing demand for J-10CEs, then CAC will offer further options like CTFs, TVNs and other goodies for the more serious buyers.

Power plants for fighter jets are designed with room for additional capabilities incorporated to the aircraft. So it's plausible that CFTs would be well within the envelope of the J-10CE's power plant.
 
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