CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Hendrik_2000

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New drone unveiled potentially for China's third aircraft carrier

By Liu Xuanzun in Zhuhai Source:Global Times Published: 2018/11/8 22:33:41

Unmanned aerial vehicle can take off with catapult launch

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A HK-5000G unmanned aerial vehicle on display at Airshow China 2018 in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province with its wings folded. Photo: Liu Xuanzun / GT

A new drone with folding wings and the potential to be deployed on China's third aircraft carrier debuted at Airshow China 2018 in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province this week.

Previously only seen in an illustration released a week before the show, the HK-5000G unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) appeared on display at the booth of the Aeromarine Intelligent Equipment Company, a subsidiary of the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation.

No detailed description was offered at the booth other than it was a medium- and high-altitude long endurance unmanned aerial vehicle.

The technical details were not given as the company is still adjusting the vehicle, Liu Yubao, vice manager of the company's research and development department, told the Global Times.

The HK-5000G is a vessel-based armed reconnaissance drone, Liu said. "It can carry a payload for scouting missions or missiles for combat."

The vehicle has an endurance of 12 hours and weighs about 5 tons, Liu said, noting that this was only initial data and liable to change.

Military observers speculated the folding wings on the drone indicate its potential for aircraft carriers.

Folding wings save space on a flight deck and are less necessary on land.

Liu confirmed the guess, saying the HK-5000G is indeed designed for aircraft carriers.

"We have already made many pre-studies including takeoff and landing on an aircraft carrier and aircraft-vessel adaptation," he said.

It's more difficult to take off and land on a flight deck at sea with the space, acceleration and deceleration requirements, Liu noted.

Given the HK-5000G's size, its 5-ton weight and its engine, a ski jump takeoff was out, Liu said. The UAV must use a catapult.

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s Liaoning and the Type 001A have ski jumps, not catapults.

In June an illustration captured at a meeting of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation suggested that China's third aircraft carrier will use an electromagnetic catapult.

As the technology matures, drones will be widely used on aircraft carriers, a military expert who asked not to be named told the Global Times on Thursday.

"A vessel-based drone can expand the reconnaissance capability of its mothership and provide fire support," the expert said.

Although exhibiting at the November 6-11 show, the drone is not for export, Liu said.

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Gustaf Adolf

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The Soviet design philosophy behind the Kuznetsov is so flawed that I don't understand how it came to be.

The number of carrier decks is always severely limited, so it just makes sense to optimise for launching aircraft, because aircraft are the carrier's best air defence.

Putting in 12 large antiship missiles and 192 SAMs degrades from this mission.

Particularly since those missiles can be carried separately on a much cheaper destroyer hull.

The USSR didn't have a choice. It was illegal for a true carrier to pass through the Turkish strait:
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Have any new modules of the type 002 carrier been seen yet?
How many modules are known to exist? Are there any confirmation on the module seen in the Dallian shipyard?
 

Deino

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guys, I really don't know why you can't stay on topic??

AShBM, the cost of S400, Russian vs US carrier design philosophy, endless comparisons on EMALS or steam cats or even operations on board the Nimitz are IRRELEVANT !

Deino :mad:
 
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Totoro

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That would be a great image for sizing stuff up.. IF we also had a satellite view of same area for a basic reference point. Seriously, those with a terraserver account, are there really no images of that area published in the last few months?
 

shifty_ginosaji

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You con see at least one module, that may be part of carrier 003 later on.
Any idea of the scale? The module to the mid-right of center appears to be the right size and shape for the stern of an LHD

EDIT: Nevermind, it looks like a carrier or bulk cargo module turned to the side
 

Intrepid

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Any idea of the scale? [...] EDIT: Nevermind, it looks like a carrier or bulk cargo module turned to the side
If I remember correct, that place isn't very large. It may be 150 meters long, so only modules can be build, no complete ships.

And we saw the module from the side many posts back in this thread. It is only the machinery space plus one deck above. It do not reach up to the hangar- or main deck.

And as long as we watch it without change and other modules following it may be an other demo-module. Or they stopped the building process because they are replanning the carrier with new features (from steam to EMALS or vice versa for example).
 
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