Trade War with China

[manqiangrexue]

Those are not Wild Accusations, several of those are FACTS.

Just saying they're facts doesn't make them facts just like saying Spider-Man's real doesn't make them real. Before you learn to cite sources, you will not have a grasp on what facts are.

The quip about LAN'ing windows 95 computers was a page out of mangs book of ridiculous & completely ludicrous comparisons. I am using Xiao Mi as an example of your typical copy-cat Chinese technology enterprise. The guy a couple pages back who broke down my defense about China stealing U.S.Innovation was pretty spot on.

LOLOLOL Niicee cover! You had no idea what supercomputer was (and that no TOP500 supercomputers, even American ones, use Windows), so you say your pathetically ignorant comment was actually a some sort of joke?! LOL Of course, we believe you are actually very knowledgeable on supercomputers; why wouldn't someone who doesn't know how to check Google for sources be up to date on supercomputers, right? LOL All my comparisons are facts backed up by publicly available sources, which none of yours are. Hey, how long until you look back at all this garbage you wrote say the whole thing was just a quip and parody of how ignorant your typical uneducated anti-China Westerners are? Haha

And the paid government shills here, cannot refute it.

Anyone who believes that someone paid 0.5rmb can argue with this level of written English providing evidence for all his claims has got to be an absolute pea-brain drinking Western media Koolaid (AKA Haterade) as his only source of hydration. By the Westerner's definition, regardless of your nationality/race, you need to hate China and be pro-Western, in order to qualify as "not a shill" LOLOL

PS. You are flaunting your mental midgetry to someone who grew up in the US since age 2 and holds a PhD in medical genetics from one of America's top 20 universities.

 

[ougoah]

Yep when all reasoning fails and no evidence is available, call the other person a shill/bot/troll/wumao. That's from the handbook these actual trolls are trained on. One of my friends was recently inducted. They work out of these rather decent offices in Thailand of all places. Bonus points get them dances from the local ladies. Ahhh if only our efforts were actually financed by the CPC... wouldn't that be a nice secondary source of income. Let's see here.... $0.50 USD per post assumption on my post count. That's a whopping $306 USD effort in about 10 years! WOW I don't think i'd get far even in China with that rate.

 

[Jura The idiot]

just looking; the context 47 minutes ago

(note I'm not
Flying_Fortress
LOL)

is it true
Party Directive Reveals Increased Chinese Theft of U.S. Technology
United front work aimed at subverting 'hostile' U.S., recruiting Americans in high-tech sector

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[Flying_Fortress]

Just saying they're facts doesn't make them facts just like saying Spider-Man's real doesn't make them real. Before you learn to cite sources, you will not have a grasp on what facts are.

LOLOLOL Niicee cover! You had no idea what supercomputer was (and that no TOP500 supercomputers, even American ones, use Windows), so you say your pathetically ignorant comment was actually a some sort of joke?! LOL Of course, we believe you are actually very knowledgeable on supercomputers; why wouldn't someone who doesn't know how to check Google for sources be up to date on supercomputers, right? LOL All my comparisons are facts backed up by publicly available sources, which none of yours are. Hey, how long until you look back at all this garbage you wrote say the whole thing was just a quip and parody of how ignorant your typical uneducated anti-China Westerners are? Haha

Anyone who believes that someone paid 0.5rmb can argue with this level of written English providing evidence for all his claims has got to be an absolute pea-brain drinking Western media Koolaid (AKA Haterade) as his only source of hydration. By the Westerner's definition, regardless of your nationality/race, you need to hate China and be pro-Western, in order to qualify as "not a shill" LOLOL

PS. You are flaunting your mental midgetry to someone who grew up in the US since age 2 and holds a PhD in medical genetics from one of America's top 20 universities.

Now you've completely Jumped Shark. "Holds A PHD in Medical Genetics from one of America's top 20 Universities" That sounds like a talking point translated directly from Chinese. Your cover has been blown, you may as well delete this name & start over with a new identity.

 

[keldon]

just looking; the context 47 minutes ago

From what i gather, it sound like a directive at recruiting talent. Specifically mention things like incentivize them with benefits and opportunities so they will work for CCP. If you ask me this is the traditional textbook coldwar spy game. So far for the content, but what is this 统战部 the document addresses to? From the name it is "unification effort department" and i would guess has more to do with Taiwan and not USA. Beside such a document can be done by pretty much anybody with decent chinese proficiency. Even that seal can be made cheaply at any stamp maker in China (Had one made from a piece of stone for about 200 yuan when i was in Beijing). IMO very hard to confirm or refute the authenticity.

 

[Jura The idiot]

anyone willing to check the translation

source is inside Today at 7:00 PM post

 

[supercat]

The fact that all you can do is personally bash me, and you have nothing real to say shows I am dead-on with EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY ARGUMENTS. Listen Ultra-Troll, im here to talk about China, not to attack others, so get with the program.

I know you guys will scream in agony over this post, and you may not want to admit it, but all China can do is piggy-back on American Innovation. That's the heart of this Trade War, China cannot innovate it's way to the 2025 made in China it's -IMPOSSIBLE- so it has to steal U.S. Innovation and force U.S. companies to give up their IP, that's just the reality of the situation however you want to spin it. This is a national priority for China, a directive handed down from emperor xi himself, he spent time in America, he knows the Chinese can only mimic, and cannot Innovate.

As soon as China maturely develops AI & rolls it out to wechat, the Chinese will become even more zombie-like & less innovative than they already are.. they will all be plugged into the matrix thinking the exact same thing. Sorry if you guys don't like that, but all you have to do is look up around for a moment at Chinese Society, and you will see 99% of the people are glued to their phones wechating away. I would say China 2025 is more about controlling the population through AI, rather than some National Goal.

You just turned the truth on its head. In fact it's the U.S. that is so afraid of the competition from China's future high tech industry, they decided to close their high tech market to Chinese products preemptively, in the name of a trade war. As for industrial espionage, only an imbecile does not do it. The U.S. developed by stealing European technology. For example,

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Nobody should ride the moral high horse on this aspect.

While spending too much time on social media may make one dumb, no matter if you are a Chinese or Westerner, smearing China's vibrant development of digital technologies as a means to achieve thought control, while totally ignoring its tremendous benefits, is unmitigated China bashing.

 

[keldon]

anyone willing to check the translation

source is inside Today at 7:00 PM post

I checked with my HSK lvl 8 proficiency. The translation is correct. I still express my doubt that the autenticity of such a document should be questioned.

 

[Flying_Fortress]

You just turned the truth on its head. In fact it's the U.S. that is so afraid of the competition from China's future high tech industry, they decided to close their high tech market to Chinese products preemptively, in the name of a trade war. As for industrial espionage, only an imbecile does not do it. The U.S. developed by stealing European technology. For example,

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Nobody should ride the moral high horse on this aspect.

While spending too much time on social media may make one dumb, no matter if you are a Chinese or Westerner, smearing China's vibrant development of digital technologies as a means to achieve thought control, while totally ignoring its tremendous benefits, is unmitigated China bashing.

I have addressed this before. Denying your enemy access to your technology is a practice older than China it's self.

China likes to brag about selling America the rope to hang it's self, it writes extensively in internal documents about using the "Assassins Mace" to defeat America.... then China cry's that America will not give it access to America's high-tech.

I'm sorry but you cannot be in an openly strategic race/cold war with an enemy and expect them to just hand over tech because "China Wants it"

 

[solarz]

I have addressed this before. Denying your enemy access to your technology is a practice older than China it's self.

China likes to brag about selling America the rope to hang it's self, it writes extensively in internal documents about using the "Assassins Mace" to defeat America.... then China cry's that America will not give it access to America's high-tech.

I'm sorry but you cannot be in an openly strategic race/cold war with an enemy and expect them to just hand over tech because "China Wants it"

When China restricted the sale of rare earth, the US filed a case with the WTO, complaining that China wasn't "trading fairly".

When the US restricted the sale of Intel chips to China, China built its own supercomputer chips.

Who's doing the crying here?