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Iron Man

Major
Registered Member
And now for the pièce de résistance :
UVLS Packing 7.png
Some reference diameters:

HHQ-10 - 12cm
RAM Block I - 12.7cm
RAM Block II - 15.9cm
LY-60 - 20.3cm
Tor/9M331 - 23.5cm
9M96E - 24cm
ESSM - 25.4cm
SM-2MR - 34cm
S-300 (up to 5V55U) - 45cm
S-300 (later versions) - 50cm
Tomahawk - 52cm
SM-3 Block II - 53.3cm
Klub - 53.3cm
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Here is another thought on dual-packing: the S-300 up to the 5V55U (range 150km) has a diameter of 45cm, with newer models being 50cm. All the photos I've seen of the HHQ-9 are smaller than the S-300:
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Take all of that together, and you have the possibility that the HHQ-9 could be dual-packed into a UVLS cell, assuming it could fold its fins (perhaps an HHQ-9C/D iteration). This would be a massive force-multiplier for the 055, and for any warship that is equipped with 9m UVLS modules (like the 052D) that is reloaded with a folding HHQ-9 version. Possibly even 7m length modules could work depending on how much space they need for either the exhaust plenum or the gas eject mechanism. 85cm is right around what you need to dual-pack a 45cm diameter missile, so it may even be possible that this is the exact reason a width of 85cm was chosen over some other number....

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You do good stuff and it is difficult but the 1st graphic is not good HQ-12 do 5.6 m HQ-9 do 6.8 m...
so the 2nd graphic of 2009... i have some doubts

I understand your idea HQ-9 can have for base missile 5V55U used by S-300PMU1

For HQ-9 diameter i see 70 cm on several blog/sites
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And with pics for see with missile alone almost impossible only possible with others for a comparison.

For me the VLS is big coz HQ-9 is big and also CJ-10 variant i have see up to 75 cm can also be eventualy interesting for later but now ofc secondary.
 

Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
Another useful option lacking would be hot launched tri-packed cell, where the exaust would be in position where fourth missile in a quadpack would otherwise be. by that logic, even a sm-2 class missiles might be tri-packed.

Of course, with cold launch it may not even be necessary. All that is needed is a few decimeters high or up to a half high meter gas cylinder mechanism underneath. (s300v uses a half a meter long system in its base, and that's a really heavy missile system)

One drawback is that the pressure during cold launch may actually require more strengthening of the cell tube, compared to extreme temperate of the hot launch. Which then may lead to requirement of thicker side walls. But who's to know...
 

Iron Man

Major
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LOL still like the jumbo 77 most
For your ASBM? :D

For HQ-9 diameter i see 70 cm on several blog/sites
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IMO this is almost certainly the wingspan of the missile, not the diameter of the missile body.

Another useful option lacking would be hot launched tri-packed cell, where the exaust would be in position where fourth missile in a quadpack would otherwise be. by that logic, even a sm-2 class missiles might be tri-packed.

Of course, with cold launch it may not even be necessary. All that is needed is a few decimeters high or up to a half high meter gas cylinder mechanism underneath. (s300v uses a half a meter long system in its base, and that's a really heavy missile system)

One drawback is that the pressure during cold launch may actually require more strengthening of the cell tube, compared to extreme temperate of the hot launch. Which then may lead to requirement of thicker side walls. But who's to know...
You mean like this:
UVLS Packing 8.png
 
For your ASBM? :D


IMO this is almost certainly the wingspan of the missile, not the diameter of the missile body.


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... Oct 24, 2017
I noticed late in the evening yesterday, before I fell asleep, I had been thinking about the blockbuster in bottom-right which might fit something like a Tochka

(minus the wings LOL) so I had been thinking about dozen of AShBMs launched in the middle of Pacific which would be the ultimate plunging fire, like one century after the US and Japanese Navies came out with the requirement for plunging fire in the middle of Pacific
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Tam

Brigadier
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