J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Deino

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Bltizo said:
1 - 3 : who knows

The reason could be any of them, or none of them. But at the end of the day I do not see any compelling reason for why the video's claims could not be possible.
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Indeed, similar to the J-10, which was already flying for years and long denied, where it was clearly a AL-31 of some sort and nothing confirmed, we also here will know more some day ...

yes, but in this case my interest is much more limited -- i.e.: why does anyone think the video is somehow not accurate or believable.

Based on my assessment I think it's quite accurate and believable.
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Agreed again, but my interest is not that limited, esp. since an answer to "what sort of DNA" this mysterious engine has would give some more details information about industrial cooperation or more.
To simply accept it is a "Chinese manufactured" engine is maybe no longer an question, but for me it is not enough.

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Hyperwarp said:
There were some rumors that LRIP J-20 was powered by WS-10IPE (WS-10G 145+ kN). Now if the video acknowledges that engine parts are produced at Liming that means "Shenyang Liming Aircraft Engine Company", correct? If it is a Shenyang related company then I doubt very much that Salut would have transferred any technology. If it were Xi'an Aero-Engine Corporation then I wouldn't be surprised if MMPP Salut were allowed to transfer some technologies for local production specialized for J-20 until WS-15 is ready.

People with experience can ID engines acoustically especially people doing maintenance. You should ask someone who has heard the sounds of both WS-10 and AL-31 up-close. Is there a big deference in acoustics between the AL-31 to WS-10 compared to AL-31 to F110? During Zhuhai 2016 what was the acoustic signature of the J-20 engines? Was it different from an AL-31?
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Yeah for people working on maintenance in close and control environment they can hear the differences. But in open outdoor environment with so many ground and air elements for the sound waves to bounce around in an air show would be a little more difficult to get a gage of the sound of the different engine.
 
Zahid

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Blackstone said:
Why not? Frivolous is frivolous no matter who does it, right?
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We are getting into OT territory here, but as a retired Mod of PDF, I have to address the negative remarks being made here:

1. In case you cared to read the links posted by Deino, you would find that all the over-zealous remarks are made by Chinese posters. The laughable 24 Ton WS-15 claim comes from a Chinese poster and Deino took good care of him. Frivolous claims do not exactly go unchallenged at PDF.

2. PDF is certainly short of moderators, because tons of posts there are made by Indian posters who come looking for fights (PDF does have some really great & wonderful Indian posters though). But to make blanket statements about PDF or Pakistani posters is certainly unwarranted. As in this case, you have chosen to shoot before checking the actual facts.

3. Thanks to people like @Deino PDF is a diverse forum which not limited to fan-boy stuff. I would certainly like to dispel the notion that it is so.

4. Many active PDF posters are here at SDF also. How much of fan-boy stuff have you seen from them?

The above are only some points to ponder. I shall not be extending this OT streak by replying to any more comments.

Thanks for your patience Mods.
 
danielchin

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best batch of the J-20 pictures (from last Zhuhai airshow I believe) yet.

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