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Its interesting that china is very determined in the SCS and ECS but on afeganistan very timid, and on its borders in general as well. Just look at the china-myanmar border.
Its easy to sail ships on the sea and build islets in the middle of nowhere, but on land its totally diferent.
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Not that interesting really, there's no trade going through Afghanistan or Myanmar while the SCS has the world's busiest trade route.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
the answer is simple Myanmar was never been a threat to China and will never be.they are too weak .But the west has been invaded China before. And they always come from the sea. they are still there on the horizon and with all those bases ring in China. It is a bigger threat.
Border dispute in Myanmar has been going on for decades. What China can do is to lighten the suffering of the ethnic Chinese Wa state by providing sanctuary and safety
plawolf
Lieutenant General
China had been patient with the likes of Vietnam and the Philipines for decades before deciding enough is enough.
There is also the critical issue of intent. In the SCS, there is zero question about the intentions of the likes of Vietnam and the Philipines making land grabs, so China responses forceably.
With Myanmar, China is taking the view that the shelling and bombing is accidental owing to poor training and antiquated weapons being used by armed the Myanmar military, so it is cutting them a lot of slack.
The rebels the Myanmar government are fighting might be ethnically Chinese, but it is pure projection on the part of the racist elements within the western media to automatically assume China will be willing the rebels to win.
These people are overwhelmingly criminals engaged in all sorts of illegal activities that often cause China significant problems internally.
A lot, if not most of these rebels are 'Golden Triangle' drug cartels that have been the primary source of illegal drugs in southern China for decades.
They are also involved in smuggling, gambling, prostitution and many similar activities that suck in Chinese money and causes social problems for China.
Myanmar would not have even started its current military campaign without getting back channel assurances from Beijing beforehand, as it would have been suicidally stupid not to have done so.
It would not surprise me if the current Myanmar military campaign is receiving significant Chinese back channel assistance, which would explain why it has been so successful in contrast to previous attempts by the Myanmar military to root out these rebels.
Given that the rebels are ethnically Chinese, it is understandable if Beijing is keen to keep any such co-operation secret.
Sorry, they took down the video.
But it this a routine pratice for PLA, or is this an unusual event ?
China to disband over a quarter of its army corps, sources say
Cutbacks part of sweeping reforms to modernise and streamline world’s biggest military
China will disband five of the PLA’s 18 army corps, according to military sources, as part of a huge overhaul initiated by President Xi Jinping aimed at turning the world’s biggest army into a more nimble and modern fighting force.
The cuts could affect up to 200,000 troops, but some military personnel might be deployed to other units such as the newly developed rocket force, the navy or the air force, two of the sources said.
The units affected in the cutbacks include the 20th and 27th army corps in the Central Theatre Command, the 14th Army Corps in the Southern Command, the 16th Army Corps in the north and the 47th in the west, one of the sources told the South China Morning Post.
The 16th and 47th corps were the power bases of disgraced former vice-chairmen of the Central Military Commission Xu Caihou and Guo Boxiong.
Guo, 74, was jailed for life for corruption in July last year, while Xu died of cancer at the age of 71 two years ago while in custody on suspicion of graft.
“The axing of the 16th and 47th army groups is a decision made by Xi to further clean up all the pernicious influence left by Guo and Xu, paving the way for Xi to assign his men amid the ongoing leadership reshuffle ahead of the party’s congress in autumn,” one of the sources said.
However, another source said the 16th Army Corps could be saved in some form amid Beijing’s concerns over South Korea’s deployment of a US missile defence system, which created the need for more troops. One possibility would include merging the 16th and 40th army groups.
“It’s possible that some of the army corps will be turned into marines or parachutists,” the source added.
Xi announced the most extensive military overhaul in decades two years ago, including laying off 300,000 personnel from the 2.3 million-strong PLA by the end of this year.
The cuts were part of those already announced, sources said. The army has said it would pay a one-time sum as compensation to affected personnel.
However this year’s seven per cent increase in the defence budget, the lowest rise this century, is likely to mean the lay-offs will be spread out over the next five years, according to two of the sources.
Another source close to the PLA said the ongoing redundancies, involving more than 170,000 senior military officials in non-combat forces, had been facing huge resistance inside the army.
Many fear they will face the same problems as veterans laid off in previous shake-ups, who have staged demonstrations in Beijing over the past few months.
“Recent massive demonstrations and protests staged by veterans in Beijing over unpaid pensions and other benefit demands have put the central leadership under great pressure,” the source said.
“Security for this year’s two annual sessions [of the legislature in Beijing] was so tight because the authorities were scared that some rabid veterans might infiltrate the conference hall to do something like demonstrate, as many of them are well trained.”
After the army corps restructuring, the Western Theatre Command, the largest military region among the five newly established commands, would have only two army corps.
These would be the 13th and 21st corps stationed in Baoji in Shaanxi province and Chongqing. They are considered well-equipped troops capable of combat duties.
The command also includes Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai provinces, plus Xinjiang, Tibet and Ningxia.
“Two army corps in the western military area is enough because China’s most powerful missile troops in the rocket force are all stationed there,” a source said.
The rocket force is estimated to comprise about 100,000 personnel and six ballistic missile brigades, equipped with the world’s longest-range missile, the DF-41, and other nuclear weapons.
Cutbacks part of sweeping reforms to modernise and streamline world’s biggest military
China will disband five of the PLA’s 18 army corps, according to military sources, as part of a huge overhaul initiated by President Xi Jinping aimed at turning the world’s biggest army into a more nimble and modern fighting force.
The cuts could affect up to 200,000 troops, but some military personnel might be deployed to other units such as the newly developed rocket force, the navy or the air force, two of the sources said.
The units affected in the cutbacks include the 20th and 27th army corps in the Central Theatre Command, the 14th Army Corps in the Southern Command, the 16th Army Corps in the north and the 47th in the west, one of the sources told the South China Morning Post.
The 16th and 47th corps were the power bases of disgraced former vice-chairmen of the Central Military Commission Xu Caihou and Guo Boxiong.
Guo, 74, was jailed for life for corruption in July last year, while Xu died of cancer at the age of 71 two years ago while in custody on suspicion of graft.
“The axing of the 16th and 47th army groups is a decision made by Xi to further clean up all the pernicious influence left by Guo and Xu, paving the way for Xi to assign his men amid the ongoing leadership reshuffle ahead of the party’s congress in autumn,” one of the sources said.
However, another source said the 16th Army Corps could be saved in some form amid Beijing’s concerns over South Korea’s deployment of a US missile defence system, which created the need for more troops. One possibility would include merging the 16th and 40th army groups.
“It’s possible that some of the army corps will be turned into marines or parachutists,” the source added.
Xi announced the most extensive military overhaul in decades two years ago, including laying off 300,000 personnel from the 2.3 million-strong PLA by the end of this year.
The cuts were part of those already announced, sources said. The army has said it would pay a one-time sum as compensation to affected personnel.
However this year’s seven per cent increase in the defence budget, the lowest rise this century, is likely to mean the lay-offs will be spread out over the next five years, according to two of the sources.
Another source close to the PLA said the ongoing redundancies, involving more than 170,000 senior military officials in non-combat forces, had been facing huge resistance inside the army.
Many fear they will face the same problems as veterans laid off in previous shake-ups, who have staged demonstrations in Beijing over the past few months.
“Recent massive demonstrations and protests staged by veterans in Beijing over unpaid pensions and other benefit demands have put the central leadership under great pressure,” the source said.
“Security for this year’s two annual sessions [of the legislature in Beijing] was so tight because the authorities were scared that some rabid veterans might infiltrate the conference hall to do something like demonstrate, as many of them are well trained.”
After the army corps restructuring, the Western Theatre Command, the largest military region among the five newly established commands, would have only two army corps.
These would be the 13th and 21st corps stationed in Baoji in Shaanxi province and Chongqing. They are considered well-equipped troops capable of combat duties.
The command also includes Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai provinces, plus Xinjiang, Tibet and Ningxia.
“Two army corps in the western military area is enough because China’s most powerful missile troops in the rocket force are all stationed there,” a source said.
The rocket force is estimated to comprise about 100,000 personnel and six ballistic missile brigades, equipped with the world’s longest-range missile, the DF-41, and other nuclear weapons.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
China held large air , ground exercise near Myanmar border as a warning. Whole town and cities are empties and people fled to the safety of Chinese border . Most of them are ethnic Chinese
Chinese military stages drills near restive Myanmar border
Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:6PM
This handout photo from the Joint Strategy Team, a consortium of nine local Kachin humanitarian organizations, taken on January 11, 2017 and released on January 13, shows Chinese soldiers (L) watching Myanmar's residents, who fled from fighting between ethnic rebel groups and military troops, arrive at the river boundary of Myanmar and China at Lung Byen village near China's Yunnan province. (Photo by AFP)
China's army troops have held drills near its border with Myanmar following weeks of clashes between armed ethnic rebel groups and Myanmar's military.
According to the official Xinhua news agency, China's infantry, artillery and air force took part in Tuesday's exercise in the country’s south.
"The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) forces on Tuesday staged an air-ground, live-fire drill in south China, close to the border with Myanmar," Xinhua said.
It also noted that the drills were part of annual training.
Meanwhile, Fang Xin, a senior Chinese military Colonel said that the drill "demonstrated the PLA's resolve and will in safeguarding national security" and "protecting people's safety and their property".
The developments come as thousands of people have fled to China in recent months to escape the battles in Myanmar's restive borderlands.
Dozens of people have died in more than three months of clashes between Myanmar's military and ethnic armed groups in the troubled region.
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This month Chinese authorities said that bullets and artillery shells had entered Chinese territory from a town in Myanmar bordering China. The shelling injured one Chinese resident and damaged some property.
China staged similar exercises in 2015 when several of its nationals were killed by stray rockets fired by Myanmar's military during a surge in violence in the Kokang border region in northeastern Shan state. A ceasefire was announced between the army and rebel groups two weeks later.
Kokang has seen repeated bouts of heavy fighting between the army and a band of well-armed ethnic minority militias since November 2016.
Fighting in Shan and the northern state of Kachin along the Myanmar-China border is intensifying day by day.
In this photograph taken October 14, 2016, armed rebels belonging to the Kachin Independence Army (KIA) ethnic group take a cigarette break as they move towards the frontline near Laiza in Kachin state. (Photo by AFP)
The clashes have threatened the second round of peace talks slated for later this month.
Last August, delegates from some rebel groups stormed out of the first round of the peace talks with Myanmar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi over a spat about their accreditation.
The government's efforts to expand a ceasefire signed with some ethnic rebel groups in 2015 have faltered.
Observers believe Beijing holds significant sway over the ethnic fighters and has a key role to play in peace talks that Suu Kyi has tried to revive since coming to power in 2015.
Chinese military stages drills near restive Myanmar border
Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:6PM
This handout photo from the Joint Strategy Team, a consortium of nine local Kachin humanitarian organizations, taken on January 11, 2017 and released on January 13, shows Chinese soldiers (L) watching Myanmar's residents, who fled from fighting between ethnic rebel groups and military troops, arrive at the river boundary of Myanmar and China at Lung Byen village near China's Yunnan province. (Photo by AFP)
China's army troops have held drills near its border with Myanmar following weeks of clashes between armed ethnic rebel groups and Myanmar's military.
According to the official Xinhua news agency, China's infantry, artillery and air force took part in Tuesday's exercise in the country’s south.
"The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) forces on Tuesday staged an air-ground, live-fire drill in south China, close to the border with Myanmar," Xinhua said.
It also noted that the drills were part of annual training.
Meanwhile, Fang Xin, a senior Chinese military Colonel said that the drill "demonstrated the PLA's resolve and will in safeguarding national security" and "protecting people's safety and their property".
The developments come as thousands of people have fled to China in recent months to escape the battles in Myanmar's restive borderlands.
Dozens of people have died in more than three months of clashes between Myanmar's military and ethnic armed groups in the troubled region.
Read more:
This month Chinese authorities said that bullets and artillery shells had entered Chinese territory from a town in Myanmar bordering China. The shelling injured one Chinese resident and damaged some property.
China staged similar exercises in 2015 when several of its nationals were killed by stray rockets fired by Myanmar's military during a surge in violence in the Kokang border region in northeastern Shan state. A ceasefire was announced between the army and rebel groups two weeks later.
Kokang has seen repeated bouts of heavy fighting between the army and a band of well-armed ethnic minority militias since November 2016.
Fighting in Shan and the northern state of Kachin along the Myanmar-China border is intensifying day by day.
In this photograph taken October 14, 2016, armed rebels belonging to the Kachin Independence Army (KIA) ethnic group take a cigarette break as they move towards the frontline near Laiza in Kachin state. (Photo by AFP)
The clashes have threatened the second round of peace talks slated for later this month.
Last August, delegates from some rebel groups stormed out of the first round of the peace talks with Myanmar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi over a spat about their accreditation.
The government's efforts to expand a ceasefire signed with some ethnic rebel groups in 2015 have faltered.
Observers believe Beijing holds significant sway over the ethnic fighters and has a key role to play in peace talks that Suu Kyi has tried to revive since coming to power in 2015.