China's SCS Strategy Thread

Air Force Brat

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I agree, the US public should not be considered any sort of restraint for the US govt if they truly want to provoke a conflict with China under Trump.

I wouldn't call it simple for the US to garner support for a war against China necessarily, but it definitely is something to seriously consider and factor into predictions.

Come Blitzo, War talk is out around here, and Trump is not gonna start a war with China, in fact a strong America may be all that prevents that, and Trump is gonna make America strong again, 8 years of Obama has taken a toll on us.
 

Air Force Brat

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Tostitos now has a new habanero salsa. And it's the most delicious salsa ever. And when it comes to chips, Real men eat them with the hottest salsa ever. Real Men only cry with a mouth full of habanero pepper. :(:mad::D

You can have the hot stuff and call me wimpy, my wifey makes beautiful, wonderful Salsa, warmish, but awesome......wait till ya hit 40ish and have a hemmoroid, that will cure your hot stuff, LOL.
 

Air Force Brat

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I suggest you do some research into the events that led up to that tragedy. 'Senseless' is not how anyone would objectively describe it.

By the accounts of fellow USN captains who were there at the time, the captain and ship in question had a cowboy reputation.



On please spare us the Pentagon propaganda.

Japanese fighters locked fire control radar on Chinese fighters is professional and safe, but Chinese fighters flying near US planes is dangerous and 'stoopid' :rolleyes:

Did the US planes have to make any course alternations to what the Chinese pilots did?

Show me a report where the US planes had to actually make evasive manoeuvres and I might accept the Chinese pilots crossed the line.

Otherwise, by their very actions and deeds, the US pilots, who were actually there in the cockpit at the time, deemed the Chinese action to pose no risk to the safety of their planes and crews. So it's just all propaganda posturing nonsense.

The US pilots and crew not only reported it as unsafe they filmed it. I've seen the films, they are definitely in the category of "STOOPID"! I realize you aren't a pilot, but??

Iran 655 was an accident, no one in the US military would do something that stoopid intentionally! no lets stop being disrespectful to the victims and let them rest in peace.
 

KIENCHIN

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The US pilots and crew not only reported it as unsafe they filmed it. I've seen the films, they are definitely in the category of "STOOPID"! I realize you aren't a pilot, but??

Iran 655 was an accident, no one in the US military would do something that stoopid intentionally! no lets stop being disrespectful to the victims and let them rest in peace.
Sorry Brat, I don't think any of the victims and relatives of Iran air 655 will ever rest in peace.
 

tidalwave

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Russia friendly Tillerson wants to block China from man-made island and Bejing responds that means War.

All this focus on Russia has in some respects clouded the comments that Tillerson made earlier in the week about the South China Sea. He told senators at his nomination hearing that Washington is “going to have to send China a clear signal that first, the island-building stops, and second, your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed.”

His answer amounted to more than just staking out a tough line on China. “It was a stunning break with years of American foreign policy,”
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FP’s Emily Tamkin. “Tillerson’s warning that the United States would block China’s access to the contested islands shocked and bewildered lawmakers and their aides, and diplomats across Asia. If carried out, it could violate international law as Washington has interpreted it and could put the United States on a collision course with China, raising the danger of a military clash.”


Beijing has sure noticed. On Friday, the government-run the Global Times newspaper said Washington
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“wage a large-scale war” in the South China Sea to prevent Chinese access to the islands.
 

Air Force Brat

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Russia friendly Tillerson wants to block China from man-made island and Bejing responds that means War.

All this focus on Russia has in some respects clouded the comments that Tillerson made earlier in the week about the South China Sea. He told senators at his nomination hearing that Washington is “going to have to send China a clear signal that first, the island-building stops, and second, your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed.”

His answer amounted to more than just staking out a tough line on China. “It was a stunning break with years of American foreign policy,”
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FP’s Emily Tamkin. “Tillerson’s warning that the United States would block China’s access to the contested islands shocked and bewildered lawmakers and their aides, and diplomats across Asia. If carried out, it could violate international law as Washington has interpreted it and could put the United States on a collision course with China, raising the danger of a military clash.”


Beijing has sure noticed. On Friday, the government-run the Global Times newspaper said Washington
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“wage a large-scale war” in the South China Sea to prevent Chinese access to the islands.

Yep, Tillerson is likely just a "straw man" to shoot the gap for eventual nominee John Bolton!

That is a crazy statement?? but hey, who knows, and that after all may be the whole intent?? just to put folks on notice, there is a new Sheriff in town. Trump may be the "gunslinger"???
 

solarz

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Russia friendly Tillerson wants to block China from man-made island and Bejing responds that means War.

All this focus on Russia has in some respects clouded the comments that Tillerson made earlier in the week about the South China Sea. He told senators at his nomination hearing that Washington is “going to have to send China a clear signal that first, the island-building stops, and second, your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed.”

His answer amounted to more than just staking out a tough line on China. “It was a stunning break with years of American foreign policy,”
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FP’s Emily Tamkin. “Tillerson’s warning that the United States would block China’s access to the contested islands shocked and bewildered lawmakers and their aides, and diplomats across Asia. If carried out, it could violate international law as Washington has interpreted it and could put the United States on a collision course with China, raising the danger of a military clash.”


Beijing has sure noticed. On Friday, the government-run the Global Times newspaper said Washington
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“wage a large-scale war” in the South China Sea to prevent Chinese access to the islands.

Of course it would mean war.

China claims those islands as its own, and has stationed them with both civilian and military personnel. China has even created a municipal district to administer the region.

In order to do what Tillerson is proposing, the US would have to either invade those islands or blockade them with their navy. Both actions would be acts of war.
 
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