Hendrik_2000
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Still waiting for night op video. This video talk about US navy night op But we have tantalizing shot at minute 5:21 hinting at landing at dusk
CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations
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kwaigonegin
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I've been very impressed with the sailors and airmen aboard Liaoning. Every video I've seen they all appear very squared away and highly disciplined.
It's quite obvious they are very very serious about their carrier program and doing things slowly and deliberately which is the right way. They set a very strong foundation and it will pay off in the future as their organic naval power continues to grow.
Hendrik_2000
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Liaoning is returning to her home base of Qingdao thru Taiwan straits
Taiwan scrambled jets and navy ships on Wednesday as a group of Chinese warships led by China's sole aircraft carrier sailed north through the Taiwan Strait, the latest sign of heightened tensions between Beijing and the self-ruled Taiwan.
The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier, returning from exercises in the South China Sea, was not trespassing in Taiwan's territorial waters but entered its air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the southwest, Taiwan's defense ministry said.
As a result Taiwan scrambled jets and navy ships to "surveil and control" the passage of the Chinese ships through the narrow body of water separating Taiwan and China, Taiwan defense ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi said.
Taiwanese military aircraft and ships have been deployed to follow the carrier group, which is sailing up the west side of the median line of the strait, he said.
Taiwan's top policymaker for China affairs on Wednesday urged Beijing to resume dialogue with Taipei, after official communication channels were halted by Beijing from June.
"I want to emphasize our government has sufficient capability to protect our national security. It's not necessary to overly panic," said Chang Hsiao-yueh, minister for Taiwan's Mainland Affairs Council, during a news briefing in response to reporters' questions on the Liaoning's movements.
"On the other hand, any threats would not benefit cross-Strait ties," she said.
China has said the Liaoning aircraft carrier was on drills to test weapons and equipment in the disputed South China Sea and its movements comply with international law.
On the weekend, a Chinese bomber flew around the Spratly Islands in a show of "strategic force", a U.S. official said on Tuesday.
The latest Chinese naval exercises have unnerved Beijing's neighbors, especially Taiwan which Beijing claims as its own, given long-running territorial disputes in the South China Sea.
Taiwan scrambled jets and navy ships on Wednesday as a group of Chinese warships led by China's sole aircraft carrier sailed north through the Taiwan Strait, the latest sign of heightened tensions between Beijing and the self-ruled Taiwan.
The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier, returning from exercises in the South China Sea, was not trespassing in Taiwan's territorial waters but entered its air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the southwest, Taiwan's defense ministry said.
As a result Taiwan scrambled jets and navy ships to "surveil and control" the passage of the Chinese ships through the narrow body of water separating Taiwan and China, Taiwan defense ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi said.
Taiwanese military aircraft and ships have been deployed to follow the carrier group, which is sailing up the west side of the median line of the strait, he said.
Taiwan's top policymaker for China affairs on Wednesday urged Beijing to resume dialogue with Taipei, after official communication channels were halted by Beijing from June.
"I want to emphasize our government has sufficient capability to protect our national security. It's not necessary to overly panic," said Chang Hsiao-yueh, minister for Taiwan's Mainland Affairs Council, during a news briefing in response to reporters' questions on the Liaoning's movements.
"On the other hand, any threats would not benefit cross-Strait ties," she said.
China has said the Liaoning aircraft carrier was on drills to test weapons and equipment in the disputed South China Sea and its movements comply with international law.
On the weekend, a Chinese bomber flew around the Spratly Islands in a show of "strategic force", a U.S. official said on Tuesday.
The latest Chinese naval exercises have unnerved Beijing's neighbors, especially Taiwan which Beijing claims as its own, given long-running territorial disputes in the South China Sea.
An enlistment time of two years is far too short.Does anyone know whether there any program in place to encourage enlistees to see the military as a career choice?
plawolf
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As far as I am aware, China has the opposites problems as most militaries in that there are far more people who wants to join and stay in the services than there are posts. Especially since the PLA has been aggressively cutting headcount in years past.
I would not consider the often mentioned 2 years as anything like a hard cap, but rather see that more as a probation period.
When you first enlist, you are in for 2 years, at the end of which, either you can walk away with an honourable discharge of your choice, or you can apply for longer term service, if the service will have you that is.
It just happens that with the huge cuts in personnel that happened only a few years ago, the PLA was already pushing out anyone who was willing to go, and was probably more inclined to want to keep veterans over green horns, so a significant proportion of newly enlisted men got the boot after 2 years even though they would have preferred to stay longer.
I think there would also be a lot of inter-service mix ups. The situation I described above would probably apply most to the army, where the majority of the cuts have been.
The navy, in contrast, has seen a massive expansion of its fleets, and with that, headcount, so I would expect the picture to by very different for newly enlisted navy sailors compared to their army counterparts.
As such, it would be a mistake to assume that just because the army will probably kick you out after 2 years, the same thing would happen with the navy.
Even common sense would rule out such rapid personnel turnover, as for a lot of posts, you don't even be fully trained up in two years, so it would be pointless to have such short careers.
As evidence, it has been mentioned in numerious interviews that a significant part, if not the majority, of men and officers on the Liaoning has already had past operational deployment experience as part of anti piracy patrols.
Given the training needs before people could be deployed on such missions, as well as they fact that they are training to operate the Liaoning, it would be simply impossible for those people to be in the service for only 2 years.
Hendrik_2000
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Oedosoldier twitter show night time video of weapon loading during recent exercise
Here is the shot
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People here can correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the Chinese military a all volunteer force today ? There are no more conscripts in the PLA. The process of professionalization started back in 1998.
Everyone in the PLA today is a volunteer. So they are there because they want to be there not because they have to be there. Being in the military is a chosen profession. Then most likely they will re-enlist at the end of their term just like in the US.
Hi there I'm back...Did you fellows know that USS Carl Vinson has deployed to the Western Pacific? She will not enter the Persian Gulf region. Does CVN-70 create any challenges for Liaoning? I know that Liaoning is heading home for now. AND with the Lunar New Year celebration coming up will Liaoning leave port over the next few weeks as a show of strength? What do you fellows think? Just curious.
Sina military has many photos suddenly of CV-16 and the USN with insinuations of some sort of confrontation..and yes I know that this is just some writer bravado..
Sina military has many photos suddenly of CV-16 and the USN with insinuations of some sort of confrontation..and yes I know that this is just some writer bravado..
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