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Great ! with a gallery 61 pics :p

The 509 BW have 2 Bomb Sqns with 19 B-2A and also a training Sqn with 16 T-38 use also some B-2A loaned by Bomb Sqns.
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Team Whiteman supports Global Thunder exercise
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For such a massive exercise only saw a single post about Keen Sword.

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US sends message to adversaries with nuclear sub visit, drills
By Barbara Starr and Brad Lendon, CNN
Updated 2:26 AM ET, Tue November 1, 2016

(CNN)The US military is sending a double-barreled message this week to potential adversaries in the Pacific.

A US Navy submarine carrying nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles is visiting Guam for the first time since the late 1980s and US and Japanese troops will practice amphibious landings on Pacific islands.
The submarine USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735) is making what the Navy formally calls a "scheduled port visit" to the US territory in the Pacific, according to a Navy press statement.

But a US defense official says that both Japanese and South Korean delegations are in Guam at this time and will be offered rare tours of the submarine.
The visit comes as military tensions are high both with North Korea over its nuclear program, and China, over its moves in the South China Sea.
The Navy is making the public statement about the Pennsylvania in part to show its presence to allies and adversaries in the region.

"This specific visit to Guam reflects the United States' commitment to its allies in the Indo-Asia-Pacific, and complements the many exercises, training, operations, and other military cooperation activities conducted between the US and its partner nations," the Navy said in its statement.
"Ballistic missile submarines such as USS Pennsylvania are on patrol continuously, providing a critical, stabilizing and highly effective element of the US nuclear deterrence force."
The Pennsylvania, one of 14 Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines in the US fleet, carries 24 Trident II D-5 ballistic missiles, according to the US Navy. Each missile carries multiple warheads which can be programmed to hit different targets.
37,000 Japanese and US troops in drills
The amphibious landings, meanwhile, are part of Exercise Keen Sword 17, involving 11,000 US and 26,000 Japanese troops. They will take place around Japan, Okinawa, Guam and the island of Tinian in the Northern Marinas.
"Significant training activities during KS17 will include air and sea operations, integrated air and missile defense and ballistic missile defense in order to keep pace with the growing ballistic missile threat in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region," said a statement from US Forces Japan.
Keen Sword has been held yearly since 1986 but this is the first year that it will include amphibious landings.
"Amphibious operation training offers an opportunity to build bilateral interoperability in this area, and it supports Japan's developing amphibious capabilities," the US military statement said.

The amphibious exercise comes amid tensions between Japan and China over the disputed island chain off China's east coast that Japan refers to as the Senkakus and China as the Diaoyus.
Both countries have put the islands in their Air Defense Identification Zones and flights over and ship transits around the islands by both countries have been contentious.
Keen Sword has already drawn reaction from Beijing, with a report posted on the website of state broadcaster China Central Television (CCTV.)
"Okinawa will stage a scenario in which the US is at war with a third party and Japan offers its assistance," the CCTV report said.
"Analysts say this is to prepare Japan's Self-Defence Forces for involvement in similar situations," it added.
The Japanese Self Defense Force said along with their 26,000 troops, 260 aircraft and 20 warships will be involved in the exercises.
US Marines have deployed on Japan's 13,950-ton helicopter destroyer JS Hyuga, the flagship of the four-ship Japanese task force involved in the exercise, a US Navy statement said.
CNN's Junko Ogura contributed to this report.
 
Oct 16, 2016
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... but New Warship’s Big Guns Have No Bullets
Barely two weeks after the US Navy commissioned its newest and most futuristic warship, armed with two huge guns that can hit targets 80 miles away, the service is moving to cancel the projectiles for the guns, citing excessive costs that run up to $800,000 per round or more.

The Long Range Land-Attack Projectile (LRLAP) is a guided precision munition that is key to the DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class’s mission as a land-attack destroyer, able to hit targets with such accuracy that, in the words of manufacturer Lockheed Martin, can “defeat targets in the urban canyons of coastal cities with minimal collateral damage.”

The LRLAP is the only munition designed to be fired from the DDG 1000’s Advanced Gun System (AGS), a 155mm/62-caliber gun with an automated magazine and handling system. Each of the three Zumwalts will carry two of the guns – the largest weapons to be designed for and fitted on a warship since World War II.

But the LRLAP’s unit price has jumped steadily as the numbers of Zumwalt-class destroyers were cut. From a total of 28 ships, to seven, and finally to three, the class shrank and costs did not.

“We were going to buy thousands of these rounds,” said a Navy official familiar with the program. “But quantities of ships killed the affordable round.”

Ironically, both the LRLAP and the AGS have had good reputations among the ten major technology development areas that make up the DDG 1000.

The Navy official noted there were no significant performance issues with the systems.

“Not that I’ve ever heard. Everything seems to have been performing correctly. I never saw any test results that showed we had problems,” the official said. “We don’t have an issue with the gun, and no issue with that ship carrying the gun. We have an issue on the price point.

“There is no blame on any individual,” the official added. “The round was working, the way forward was logical. It’s just that the cost with a three-ship buy became a very high cost.”

Even at $800,000 a copy, the LRLAP’s price could go higher. “That’s probably low,” the Navy official said. “That’s what the acquisition community wanted to get it down to.” The official added that there was no sense the contractor was “overcharging or anything.”

The decision to accept the LRLAP cancellation is part of the Program Objective Memorandum 2018 (POM18) effort, the Pentagon’s annual budget process. Although the Navy made a presentation to the Office of the Secretary of Defense on Nov. 2, the decision has yet to be signed off on.

For the record, the Navy would not comment directly on the effort to kill LRLAP.

“The Navy continuously monitors the gun and ammunition industry capability and capacities,” Capt. Thurraya Kent, spokesperson for the service’s acquisition directorate, said Nov. 4 in an e-mail. “To address evolving threats and mission requirements, the Navy is evaluating industry projectile solutions (including conventional and hyper-velocity projectiles) that can also meet the DDG 1000 deployment schedule and could potentially be used as an alternative to LRLAP for DDG 1000.”

Officials at Lockheed Martin could not be reached in time to comment for this story.

While LRLAP may be cancelled, the Navy intends to find another munition for the gun system.

“We are looking at multiple different rounds for that gun,” the Navy official said, adding that “three or four different rounds” have been looked at, including the Army’s Excalibur munition from Raytheon, and the Hyper Velocity Projectile (HVP), a project under development by the Office of Naval Research and BAE Systems.

“There are multiple companies that have looked at alternatives to get the cost down and use that delivery system,” the Navy official said.

But the likelihood is that there will be no LRLAP replacement before the Zumwalt enters operational service. While the ship was commissioned Oct. 15 in Baltimore, Maryland, another 18 months of shipyard work lies ahead in San Diego to complete installation of the ship’s combat system. After that, the Navy will run an extensive series of Combat Systems Ship Qualifications Trials (CSSQT) in 2018 to fully prove out the ship’s sensors and weapons.

Current plans call for the guns to be fired during CSSQT and, the Navy official said, “the intention is to shoot the guns.” The 2015 budget provided $113 million to buy 150 LRLAP rounds and associated items, and those rounds will be used for the tests.

No funds for LRLAP acquisition were included in the 2016 or 2017 budgets. The latter included $51 million in 2018 for the program, but it’s not clear whether or not that money will be requested.

While software changes will certainly be needed to incorporate other munitions into the AGS, adapting the handling system for a different round could be complex. The automated magazines, designed to hold 300 LRLAPs, are sized for that particular weapon and it’s unlikely another munition would have exactly the same dimensions.

Other rounds under development for the 127mm guns arming all other US destroyers and cruisers could be adapted to the AGS, but would likely need a sabot arrangement to adapt the smaller shell to the 155mm weapon.

While the Navy is stressing that high costs are directly behind the decision to eliminate LRLAP, it is not clear if there are deeper issues at play. The AGS/LRLAP combination was originally developed to provide Marines with a “persistent, precision fire support” capability, able to strike targets far inland with a high degree of accuracy.

But as the Zumwalt moved from shipyard to sea and to the fleet, the Navy has notably downplayed that attribute, and while the technical achievement of the cutting-edge DDG 1000 has been widely trumpeted this year, its ability to directly support Marines ashore has not.

There was no requirement for the AGS to strike seagoing targets, and the system does not have the programming to do so. But the big guns could be adapted to target ships if necessary, the Navy official said.

“We would have to do the software modifications to make that work.”
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... but New Warship’s Big Guns Have No Bullets
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I know some of the folks working n this program.

Mark my words.

The Zumwalts will end up doing all they have been advertised to do and more.

Like with the set back on any of the relly cutting edge programs, be it the Fords, the F-35s, LCS, etc...when you are pushing the edge you are gi g to be more exensive and run into issues.

It's not the ifrst go round for the US on such things.

But one day all three of those things (and perhaps more) are going to be completed and tey will be among the most feared and respected ships afloat...and they will end up with on Rail Gun and alsers to augment their capabilities.

We may have some set backs to get there...but remember what I am telling you about these.
 

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Now necessary for looking for the new Military Policy with the new President who will take office in January but Trump or Clinton have about the same Policy an increase better increase and idealy clearly but remains always difficult to do... especialy for the taxpayper coz funds are not unlimited ...


Trump’s and Clinton’s Defense Policies Are Pricier Than Obama’s
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TRUMP: Echoing concerns of many Republicans, Trump argues that the military is too small to accomplish its assigned missions. He would increase the size of the active-duty Army to 540,000. The current total is 475,000 soldiers, which is due to shrink to 460,000 by the end of the current budget year in September 2017. He also would put the Navy on track to increasing its active-duty fleet to 350 ships, compared to the current Navy plan of growing from today’s 272 ships to 308 sometime after 2020. He has not said how he would pay for these increases, other than calling for an audit of the Pentagon’s books and economizing in broad ways like “reducing duplicative bureaucracy.”

In this post and others for have a better idea we need approach some type of armament/weapons for look military capacities and needs especialy :
1/ USN size
2/ USAF especialy Fighter, Bomber fleet
3/ Army size especialy number of personnal and Units, Brigades
4/ USMC to see
5/ Various, programms

For strategy with Asian-Pacific pivot and since Desert Strorm, Iraq 1991 and for all Armies Air Forces, navy are favorized, Army less for 2 reasons Pacific look WWII is a air-naval theater and during Desert Storm air campaign during 16-01 / 24/02 and ground 4 days...

Actual Budget, funds is of
FY 2016
In FY 2016 (October 1, 2015 - September 30, 2016), the DoD budget is $587.1 billion dollars (+$16.3B / +2.9%). Of this amount, $528.5 billion is Base funding + $58.6 billion for OCO. In FY 2016, the DoD budget provides $118.9 billion for Procurement and $70.0 billion for RDT&E. Defense Outlays of $576.3 billion are expected
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Impossible to say exact numbers ofc but sure Trump plancs needs a budget of minimum 600 billions Base Funding which is the true budget in fact.
Actual budget without to be ideal allow yet a good military capacity but with some weakness we see later.

If some especialy US members have more accurate forecast, number plannedespecialy by Trump they are welcome.
 
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FORBIN

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I am close :)
600 - 528 : 72 billions in fact appear about... 55 billions

Actual Budget, funds is of


Impossible to say exact numbers ofc but sure Trump plancs needs a budget of minimum 600 billions Base Funding which is the true budget in fact.
Actual budget without to be ideal allow yet a good military capacity but with some weakness we see later.

If some especialy US members have more accurate forecast, number plannedespecialy by Trump they are welcome.

All of that sounds costly. Where does he get the money?
Eaglen has calculated that his promises could add up to an additional $55 billion in defense spending—“and that’s conservative,” she said.

Four questions about how Trump would affect the military industrial complex

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Watch as a US Navy destroyer launches SM-2 missiles during Bravo trials

Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), one of two shipbuilders in charge of constructing the U.S. Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, has recently shared a video of USS John Finn (DDG 113) launching SM-2 missiles during Bravo trials.

The video shows the ship firing one SM-2 missile each from the ship’s forward and aft MK 41 vertical launch system.

Bravo trials are the second in a series of three test trials that the destroyer is set to undergo before being delivered to the navy. The first, Alpha trials, were completed in late August and the third trials will be joined by the U.S. Navy’s Board of Inspection and Survey.

John Finn is the 63rd Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) class destroyer and the first of the DDG 51 Flight IIA restart ships.

Construction on the ship began in November 2013, and the christening ceremony took place on May 2, 2015.

Other destroyers currently under construction at Ingalls include Ralph Johnson (DDG 114), Paul Ignatius (DDG 117), Delbert D. Black (DDG 119) and Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG 121). Construction on Lenah H. Sutcliffe Higbee (DDG 123) is scheduled to begin in the second quarter of 2017.

John Finn will be equipped with the Navy’s Aegis Combat System. DDG 51 Flight IIA ships will provide increased capabilities over previous flights of Arleigh Burke destroyers, including advances in anti-submarine warfare, command and control, and anti-surface warfare.

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