ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

[Jura The idiot]

Friday at 6:57 AM

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in the development related to

... a pocket could possibly be formed north to, and including,

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:

yesterday Rebels/Turks took

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from ISIL (I'm not sure if it's official, anyway "miladvisor" (who usually is conservative) put it in the map:

(should be "clickable"; it's

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) ...

... and I think later ISIL retook Aktarin, but withdrew, and now the "Dabiq protrusion" looks something like

or (it's

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[Jura The idiot]

Friday at 6:57 AM

... and now the "Dabiq protrusion" looks something like ...

...:

 

[delft]

I just heard a British member of parliament, Andrew Mitchell (

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) say in the news program Today on BBC Radio 4 say that the Russian air force was not bombing military formations in Aleppo but only women and children and hospitals. He compared it with the bombing of Guernica during the Spanish civil war. He said than some years ago two million people lived in Aleppo but now only a quarter of a million. Today the House of Commons will have an emergency debate on what to do and he wants NATO air forces to interfere "defensively".

 

[SampanViking]

I just heard a British member of parliament, Andrew Mitchell (

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) say in the news program Today on BBC Radio 4 say that the Russian air force was not bombing military formations in Aleppo but only women and children and hospitals. He compared it with the bombing of Guernica during the Spanish civil war. He said than some years ago two million people lived in Aleppo but now only a quarter of a million. Today the House of Commons will have an emergency debate on what to do and he wants NATO air forces to interfere "defensively".

I heard him too this morning - I actually checked the date and it is indeed Oct 11th not April 1st.
The startling thing was his being allowed by Radio 4 to get away with stark factual inaccuracies, Principally the population figure! Seems that the 1.5million plus living in the Government controlled areas, just do not count for anything in this sad shills reckoning.

Any debate however will just be a hot air session and more of a threat to the environment than anything else.

 

[delft]

I heard him too this morning - I actually checked the date and it is indeed Oct 11th not April 1st.
The startling thing was his being allowed by Radio 4 to get away with stark factual inaccuracies, Principally the population figure! Seems that the 1.5million plus living in the Government controlled areas, just do not count for anything in this sad shills reckoning.

Any debate however will just be a hot air session and more of a threat to the environment than anything else.

OT
A few weeks ago I sent a reaction to an interview with another Tory MP, who previously let the British army in Bosnia, to the BBC and I got the answer that interviewers are not obliged or able to check pronouncements for accuracy.

 

[SampanViking]

OT
A few weeks ago I sent a reaction to an interview with another Tory MP, who previously let the British army in Bosnia, to the BBC and I got the answer that interviewers are not obliged or able to check pronouncements for accuracy.

Which is quite a comment for a program that boasts of being presented by some of the "finest and most forensic" current affairs presenters in the country!
I actually emailed Mitchell to let him know just how impressed I was by him.

 

[Jura The idiot]

I noticed at first in gazeta.ru

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Syria debate: Boris Johnson calls for protests outside Russian embassy - Politics live

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[Jura The idiot]

Oct 1, 2016

as an armchair general, I use Sectors now (previously https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...o-oped-no-politics.t6913/page-421#post-413187 numbers):

"A" (from the top-left corner down in the above map):
- Kurnaz G (as in 'Government held')
- Al Hamamiyat R (as in 'hold by Rebels')
- Jubbayn G
- Halfaya R
- Muhradah G
- Al Majdal G; "A" ends

"B" (the bottom part):
- Khattab G
- Qimhanah G
- (not shown, but important) "Mount Zayn al-Abdeen" (

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) G
- Iskandariyah R
- Kafr Ra G; "B" ends

"C" (where most of the fights have been going on recently):
- Mubattan G
- Kawkab R
- Tayyibat al Ism G
- Qarah R
- Junaynah G
- Zugbah G; "C" ends

"D" (I don't know almost anything here):
- Duma R
"D" ends somewhere where ISIL is to the east (and out of this map) ...

presumably it should be easy to track now, but who knows ...

I looked at coupla Twitter accounts now and it left me with the impression Government got up somewhere to this blue line today:

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(both sides now say Government is in Kawkab; the rest of the red line hasn't changed to the extent I know, and to the extent it has been originally correct

 

[taxiya]

I just heard a British member of parliament, Andrew Mitchell (

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) say in the news program Today on BBC Radio 4 say that the Russian air force was not bombing military formations in Aleppo but only women and children and hospitals. He compared it with the bombing of Guernica during the Spanish civil war. He said than some years ago two million people lived in Aleppo but now only a quarter of a million. Today the House of Commons will have an emergency debate on what to do and he wants NATO air forces to interfere "defensively".

Are we sure BBC spelled his last name correctly? Not Andrew Goebbels? Be "defensive" thousand kilometers outside of UK? And he believe most of the two million people could not have walked away from the war zone on their feet? And BBC must also have miss-spelled "House of Clowns" for "House of Commons" if the debate based on an childish lie is really happening.

 

[taxiya]

OT
A few weeks ago I sent a reaction to an interview with another Tory MP, who previously let the British army in Bosnia, to the BBC and I got the answer that interviewers are not obliged or able to check pronouncements for accuracy.

essentially that practice makes BBC a forum of liars.