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For the record, I am very happy with this result.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
It will likely be a good 2 years before UK officially leaves the EU and that same for the next Scottish independence referendum. the last Vote heavily favored staying in the UK. People vote from there pockets and with their feet. If the Uk looks like it's going down the tank an Independent Scotland is possible if the Uk is holding strong then It's more likely to stay. But the Home Islands are not the only place affected.
Spain calls for joint control of Gibraltar after EU vote
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Image captionGibraltar voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU
The Spanish government has called for joint sovereignty over Gibraltar in the wake of the UK's vote to leave the EU.
The British overseas territory of 30,000 voted overwhelmingly for remain, with 95.9% opting to stay in the union.
"The Spanish flag on the Rock is much closer than before," Spain's acting Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo said on Friday.
Gibraltar has been a British territory since 1713 but Spain continues to claim sovereignty over the enclave.
At the entrance to the Mediterranean, Gibraltar relies heavily on its shared EU border with Spain for trade.
In a radio interview, Mr Garcia-Margallo said: "It's a complete change of outlook that opens up new possibilities on Gibraltar not seen for a very long time.
"I hope the formula of co-sovereignty - to be clear, the Spanish flag on the Rock - is much closer than before."
Gibraltar's Chief Minister Fabian Picardo campaigned for a remain vote.
Julie Girling, the Conservative MEP for South West England and Gibraltar, said; "I am deeply sorry that the people of the UK have chosen this leap in the dark.
"I believe future generations will question our wisdom."
There were 19,322 votes for remain, amid a turnout of 84% of the UK voters on the enclave.
Spain continues to claim sovereignty over Gibraltar but the majority of Gibraltarians are British citizens with British passports.
The enclave is self-governing in all areas except defence and foreign policy. It is home to a British military garrison and naval base.
Gibraltarians elect their own representatives to the territory's House of Assembly and the British monarch appoints a governor.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Again 2 years to hammer out a new deal. The EU is mostly a set of Trade and Emigration pacts. The UK is not leaving NATO or mining the Channel barricading the ports and flooding the Chunnel. What this means is that the UK and EU have to hammer out a new set of either Bilateral or multilateral trade deals as half the UK's trade both in and out is to what will be the separate EU.
Basically the short term will be some panic yet if the new PM and staff do there Job the UK will quickly work to keep the best parts of EU status well cutting the Worst. Overall BREXIT is The UK restoring the UK's sovereignty in trade, Foreign Affairs and internal policy. Her majesty's Government will no longer have to check any bill with Brussels to see if it complies with there Directives.
Long term it means new possible trade options as the UK seeks a restoration of it's own trade.
Basically the short term will be some panic yet if the new PM and staff do there Job the UK will quickly work to keep the best parts of EU status well cutting the Worst. Overall BREXIT is The UK restoring the UK's sovereignty in trade, Foreign Affairs and internal policy. Her majesty's Government will no longer have to check any bill with Brussels to see if it complies with there Directives.
Long term it means new possible trade options as the UK seeks a restoration of it's own trade.
vesicles
Colonel
Apparently many who voted for leave didn't know what it really meant.
This Sweeney guy is an idiot. Why would anyone vote for the opposite side of what he wanted?! Obviously he thought this referendum was a joke and acted accordingly. I have no sympathy for this kind of people.
vesicles
Colonel
I think the major implication is what will happen to the EU after this. If the UK has decided to leave, others may follow suit. Pretty soon, you will see France, Germany etc thinking about leaving. Then the EU is no more. I think that's mostly why most people panic. UK is simply the first chip that may start a whole domino effect.
Now, whether that's a bad thing is up for debate, IMHO. I for one don't see many up side of EU nowadays. Many of the major powers in the EU have been dragged down the mud by the likes of Greece. If they can break free, they might be able to actually improve their economy and get out of the funk. As they become better, they might be able to bring everyone else, including Greece, out of the decade long depression.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Well, that's the price one pays for having universal suffrage. A single vote doesn't care how smart or dumb one is. The problem starts when a collection of idiots started voting in large numbers of any election or issues.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Although I don't think it will be Germany leaving the EU.EU referendum: Brexit sparks calls for other EU votes
- 3 hours ago
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Image captionMarine Le Pen said the French must have the same referendum
The UK's vote to leave the EU has sparked demands from far-right parties for referendums in other member states.
France's National Front leader Marine Le Pen said the French must now also have the right to choose.
Dutch anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders said the Netherlands deserved a "Nexit" vote while Italy's Northern League said: "Now it's our turn".
The UK voted by 52% to 48% to leave the EU after 43 years. David Cameron has announced he will step down as PM.
Global stock markets fell heavily on the news and the value of the pound has also fallen dramatically.
The European parliament has called a special session for next Tuesday.
Analysts say EU politicians will fear a domino effect from Brexit that could threaten the whole organisation.
Ms Le Pen hailed the UK vote, : "Victory for freedom. As I've been saying for years, we must now have the same referendum in France and other EU countries."
She is the front-runner among candidates for the presidential election in 2017 but opinion polls suggest she would lose a run-off vote.
Alarm bells - BBC Europe editor, Katya Adler
The EU worries Brexit could reverse 70 years of European integration.
In all my years watching European politics, I have never seen such a widespread sense of Euroscepticism.
Plenty of Europeans looked on with envy as Britain cast its In/Out vote. Many of the complaints about the EU raised by the Leave campaign resonated with voters across the continent.
Across Europe leading Eurosceptic politicians queued up this morning to crow about the UK referendum result.
But the mood in Brussels is deeply gloomy. The Brexit vote sends screaming alarm bells, warning that the EU in its current form isn't working.
Last Friday, Ms Le Pen had told a gathering of far-right parties in Vienna: "France has possibly 1,000 more reasons to want to leave the EU than the English."
She said the EU was responsible for high unemployment and failing to keep out "smugglers, terrorists and economic migrants".
Mr Wilders, leader of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands, said in a statement: "We want to be in charge of our own country, our own money, our own borders, and our own immigration policy.
"As quickly as possible the Dutch need to get the opportunity to have their say about Dutch membership of the European Union."
The Netherlands faces a general election in March and some opinion polls suggest Mr Wilders is leading. A recent Dutch survey suggested 54% of the people wanted a referendum.
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Image captionGeert Wilders: "We want to be in charge of our own country"
Image copyrightEPA
Image captionMateo Salvini of Italy's Northern League: "THANK YOU UK, now it's our turn"
Mateo Salvini, the leader of Italy's anti-immigration Northern League, : "Hurrah for the courage of free citizens! Heart, brain and pride defeated lies, threats and blackmail.
"THANK YOU UK, now it's our turn."
The anti-immigration Sweden Democrats wrote on Twitter that "now we wait for swexit!"
Kristian Thulesen Dahl, leader of the populist Danish People's Party, said a referendum would be "a good democratic custom".
European Parliament President Martin Schulz denied Brexit would trigger a domino effect, saying the EU was "well-prepared".
But Beatrix von Storch, of Germany's Eurosceptic AfD party, praising "Independence Day for Great Britain", demanded that Mr Schulz and European Commission head Jean-Claude Juncker resign.
"The European Union has failed as a political union," she said.
The Germans are getting the best of the EU, It's placed them in a dominate position in europe without need of tanks and bloodshed. France is possible, the Netherlands also has a movement to leave as does Italy and Sweden the question is are Sovereignty movements in a position to make the push?