ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

[dtulsa]

The British government has banned all UK airlines for flying in or out of Sharm-El-Sheikh in Egypt, which suggests very strongly that the UK security forces are of the opinion that not only was it a bomb that brought the Russian airliner down, but also that they suspect it to be an inside job.

And I have to agree, in this day and age, its near impossible to get a bomb on board a passenger jet unless someone working at the airport with the proper security clearances was helping you.

The plane that went down was also a chartered flight, so if someone wanted to kill Russians and only Russians, that would have been the best possible target.

If ISIS could indeed get bombs on planes, as it appears to have been the case, not only does it speak of alarming sophistication, it also raises the question of, why only now?

You'd think with all their foaming rage and professed hatred of all things western and modern, ISIS would have taken down an American airliner months ago, when America was the only one bombing ISIS?

That it does I am of the opinion that it's only a matter of time before that happens either to us or a European ally I also think in that case the repercussion will be swift and total Isis annihilation for even this administration can not let that happen on its watch it's not like Isis isn't trying they just haven't had the opportunity to yet

 

[plawolf]

That it does I am of the opinion that it's only a matter of time before that happens either to us or a European ally I also think in that case the repercussion will be swift and total Isis annihilation for even this administration can not let that happen on its watch it's not like Isis isn't trying they just haven't had the opportunity to yet

It would be quite a co-incidence for ISIS to suddenly develop the means to planet bombs on airliners only a few short weeks after the Russians enters the fray.

 

[SampanViking]

This hack will have to suffice.
The deep/blood-red indicates territory anticipated to be taken in the southwest Aleppo offensive. The grey indicates territory anticipated to be taken in a subsequent northwest Aleppo offensive. As one can seee, with these, FSA coalition forces in Idlib Governorate have a limited field of maneuver, and those remaining in the northeast of Aleppo Governorate won't have many options.

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of course, i would neglect to recognize that grey had already been used, for ISIL, no less, adding the potential for confusion.
oh well!

I think that what your map shows Janjak, is that by taking Aleppo and environs, you totally destroy the territorial integrity of any "Free" Statelet. It is a big nail in the coffin of the partition strategy.

One common theme, in all this worth adding, is that this strategy makes more sense from a political perspective rather than a military one. I mean by this, that this looks like moves to end this conflict via political means, rather than through bitter military struggle to the end, at least as far as the rebels are concerned.

 

[dtulsa]

I am afraid that this conflict will not end till Isis is destroyed it's because Isis will never surrender kind of like the Japanese in WWII

 

[dtulsa]

It does seem similar to Vietnam in a way in that Russia is supporting one side (Assad ) and we are supporting the other (the rebels ) but unlike Vietnam there is a common enemy and that is Isis

 

[dtulsa]

I think that what your map shows Janjak, is that by taking Aleppo and environs, you totally destroy the territorial integrity of any "Free" Statelet. It is a big nail in the coffin of the partition strategy.

One common theme, in all this worth adding, is that this strategy makes more sense from a political perspective rather than a military one. I mean by this, that this looks like moves to end this conflict via political means, rather than through bitter military struggle to the end, at least as far as the rebels are concerned.

Assad may be trying for some kind truce or ceasefire before moving on to the bigger task of regaining lost territory to Isis in other words not trying to bite off more than he can chew we shall see in the coming month's if not years

 

[plawolf]

I am afraid that this conflict will not end till Isis is destroyed it's because Isis will never surrender kind of like the Japanese in WWII

Indeed, sometimes you just have to kill them all, and the world needs to do that soon.

All those women these monsters are enslaving and mass raping, they are not doing it just for pleasure, they are using those poor women as breeding stock effectively.

There are probably already many hundreds or even thousands of ISIS babies.

The world needs to rescue those children before their young, innocent minds are forever tainted and corrupted by the foul ideology and brainwashing of these savages. Or else in a few years, the world will be confronted with the terrible reality of massed ranks of ISIS child soldiers and suicide bombers.

Facing with that, even the most battle hardened veterans will have their moral and willpower sourly tested, and many brave soldiers will unfortunately loose their lives as ISIS uses their very own decency, kindness and humanity against them.

Soldiers will run to the rescue of "injured" children only to be shot at point blank range or blown up by the very children they risk all to save.

Guards will hesitate and bulk as a wave of tiny children rush their checkpoints and not be able to bring themselves to gun them down even if they know those children to be strapped with explosives.

It will be worse when eventually, reluctantly, soldiers force themselves to kill children to save themselves and their comrades. The psychological damage from that will be profound, and make the crippling PTSD many veterans currently suffer seem like a good mood.

Many good men and women will have their lives destroyed by the experience even if they survive the battle, and some will be so stripped of their humanity by it, they may end up little different from the ISIS monsters they fought.

I am convinced that is what ISIS has planned, and we really need to act before we are faced with the reality of that nightmare.

 

[dtulsa]

Indeed, sometimes you just have to kill them all, and the world needs to do that soon.

All those women these monsters are enslaving and mass raping, they are not doing it just for pleasure, they are using those poor women as breeding stock effectively.

There are probably already many hundreds or even thousands of ISIS babies.

The world needs to rescue those children before their young, innocent minds are forever tainted and corrupted by the foul ideology and brainwashing of these savages. Or else in a few years, the world will be confronted with the terrible reality of massed ranks of ISIS child soldiers and suicide bombers.

Facing with that, even the most battle hardened veterans will have their moral and willpower sourly tested, and many brave soldiers will unfortunately loose their lives as ISIS uses their very own decency, kindness and humanity against them.

Soldiers will run to the rescue of "injured" children only to be shot at point blank range or blown up by the very children they risk all to save.

Guards will hesitate and bulk as a wave of tiny children rush their checkpoints and not be able to bring themselves to gun them down even if they know those children to be strapped with explosives.

It will be worse when eventually, reluctantly, soldiers force themselves to kill children to save themselves and their comrades. The psychological damage from that will be profound, and make the crippling PTSD many veterans currently suffer seem like a good mood.

Many good men and women will have their lives destroyed by the experience even if they survive the battle, and some will be so stripped of their humanity by it, they may end up little different from the ISIS monsters they fought.

I am convinced that is what ISIS has planned, and we really need to act before we are faced with the reality of that nightmare.

 

[dtulsa]

In that sense it's not unlike the Hitler youth's

 

[plawolf]

In that sense it's not unlike the Hitler youth's

It is going to be a lot worse.

Hitler's Youth's were just ordinary kids press ganged into military service.

You had the odd true believer, but most were just ordinary kids. But even the die hard true believers had a normal upbringing by parents who loved them and taught them good values and reinforced their humanity to counteract the poison Hitler tried to brainwash them with.

These ISIS babies would have been born into a world where hatred, cruelty and barbarity was the norm, torn from their mothers as babies and handed to die-hard ISIS true-believer wives to raise. They will be brainwashed and conditioned from birth to be the "perfect" terror weapon.

They will be the most horrifying and insidious living weapons I can imagine, against which the civilized world will have no defence or counter.

To effectively combat such a threat, we will have to discard much of our own hard-won humanity and values, and those who do it will be forever scarred by the experience.

How many of us can kill a tiny child even if we knew it would cost us our own life not to? How many of us could live with what we had done afterwards even if we did take the shot? How many true, innocent children will die at the hands of good soldiers who thought they were suicide bombers?

If ISIS is allowed to develop and unleash this weapon, it will already be too late.

Hard choices and sacrifices have to be made now, by all governments, or we will be faced with impossible choices only a few short years down the line.