ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Blackstone

Brigadier
Well said, Jeff. I'd also expect Russia to furnish and resupply Assad whatever equipment, training, and Special Forces support he needs to secure his position, and then take back some portions of Syria he lost. Putin's all in for Assad-lead Syria.
 

nicky

Junior Member
i don't think Putin will go that route. if, and when, it becomes necessary to affect a change in oil-monarchies' behaviors, i think he'll use a more dire(ct) method, i. e., demonstrating the vulnerability of west-Persian Gulf oil-installations to ship and air-launched cruise missiles.

in fact, these small states already express fear they will not survive this unpredictable chain of events.
the whole region requires a new post-war " vienna congress (1815)" as soon as possible.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
in fact, these small states already express fear they will not survive this unpredictable chain of events.
the whole region requires a new post-war " vienna congress (1815)" as soon as possible.
Interesting perspective, Nicky, and I suppose you see US as... France? But, it's hard to see the balancing coalition against Iran: Iraq is in shambles; Saudis can't do it on its own; Turkey probably doesn't want any part of facing down Iran, and given the US Pivot Rebalance out of the Middle East, it might have problems protecting KSA, Kuwait and the other small oil states from the Persian hegemony. And yet, without Iran playing a leading role, the region wouldn't be peaceful, and without peace, the Middle East Vienna Congress fails.
 

nicky

Junior Member
Interesting perspective, Nicky, and I suppose you see US as... France? But, it's hard to see the balancing coalition against Iran: Iraq is in shambles; Saudis can't do it on its own; Turkey probably doesn't want any part of facing down Iran, and given the US Pivot Rebalance out of the Middle East, it might have problems protecting KSA, Kuwait and the other small oil states from the Persian hegemony. And yet, without Iran playing a leading role, the region wouldn't be peaceful, and without peace, the Middle East Vienna Congress fails.

vienna as alternative to yalta: away from new divisions based on global/regional rivalry. with iran, kurds. etc.., as part security guarantors. now, with even qatar scared to death and not trying to hide it, it's hight time for new global undertaking that may unite all: big, small, muslims, jews, etc.

dream no small dreams. Magrib-Levant must be helped to be "re-balanced" and, probably, run by itself on the on the regional level by something like european or african union :) (don't kill me with your laughter). one enemy for all - isis: might work.
 
found a moment ago, right now I can't watch the six-minutes video inside
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60 Minutes films live bombing of ISIS target
Correspondent David Martin gets an unprecedented look inside the command center where the U.S. is conducting its air war against ISIS

dated Oct 23

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On 60 Minutes this week, David Martin takes viewers inside the air war against ISIS, as an American bombing mission is launched from a $60 million command center in the Persian Gulf country of Qatar. It was the first time news cameras were allowed inside.

"We've all seen videos like this before -- of bombs hitting their targets," Martin tells Overtime editor Ann Silvio in the video above. "What was different about this is that it wasn't after the fact. This was real time."

As the cameras rolled, a pair of Dutch F-16s and a B-1 bomber all hit a target identified as a car-bomb factory in Iraq. In the last month and a half, U.S. and allied planes have struck 47 facilities like this one.

The military takes pains to avoid civilian casualties, Martin says, keeping targets under surveillance for weeks or even months before unleashing an airstrike. "In this case, the closest building was about 150 feet away. So they dropped their smallest bomb, a 500-pound bomb, on the target that was closest to that building to minimize the blast effect."

Martin and producer Mary Walsh spent eight months negotiating with the Pentagon for access to the command center. Ultimately, Martin thinks, the Pentagon allowed them in so that 60 Minutes viewers could see the work involved.

"They always say how much they try to avoid civilian casualties, but you just sort of have to take them at their word," Martin says. "If you let people see how much study you put into a target before you hit it, then that makes the case."

And for Americans who think we haven't been aggressive enough against ISIS, he adds, this story lets them judge for themselves.

"I think [the Pentagon] wanted people to understand the magnitude of the effort," he says. At the airfield they visited, "a military aircraft takes off or lands every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day."

The U.S. has gone to war against ISIS, Martin says, but many people don't realize it. "In part that's because we haven't been allowed to see much." Until now.
 
the official-Russian part of the story (I anyway translated the obvious; found at a Russian blogsite, in total: 930 sorties flown between September 30 and October 22 officially destroyed 819 targets):
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the USA Today part of the story:
Harsh conditions are foiling Russian jets in Syria
Russian warplanes sent to Syria to back the regime of Bashar Assad are breaking down at a rapid rate that appears to be affecting their ability to strike targets, according to a senior Defense official.

Nearly one-third of Russian attack planes and half of its transport aircraft are grounded at any time as the harsh, desert conditions take a toll on equipment and crews, said the official who was not authorized to speak publicly about sensitive intelligence matters.

The Russians appear to be having difficulty adapting to the dusty conditions, and the number of airstrikes they have conducted seems to have dipped slightly.

"For deployed forces, that's a hideous rate," said Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst at the Teal Group, an aerospace consulting firm.

Russian President Vladimir Putin deployed warplanes, including Russia's advanced Fullback ground-attack jet, helicopters and troops to a base near Latakia, Syria, in September. In addition, at least a dozen transport planes have been stationed there.

"They could have bad operating procedures, inadequate supplies of spare parts and support crews," Aboulafia said.

Russia's inexperience deploying forces at some distance, unlike their military actions in bordering countries such as Ukraine and Georgia, could also account for problems keeping planes in the air, he said.

"An awful lot of expeditionary warfare revolves around logistics," Aboulafia said. "A lot of it comes down to experience. They don't have that much of it."

For U.S. warplanes, readiness rates of less than 80% would attract attention from top brass, said a senior Air Force commander with multiple combat deployments in the Middle East. The officer was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter. However, the officer noted that planes break, especially in austere, deployed conditions. He characterized mission-readiness rates of less than 80% as a matter of concern, not alarm.

David Deptula, a retired three-star Air Force general who led planning for the air war in Operation Desert Storm, said the rates for American fighters in combat zones has been above 90%. The readiness rate of 70% for Russian fighters isn't surprising, he said, because they lack experience being deployed and have been flying their jets hard. He called their rates for cargo planes, "pretty low."

"If those rates are accurate, it indicates that their deployed logistics function requires some attention," Deptula said.

U.S. pilots and aircraft have flown combat missions in the Middle East almost continuously since the first Gulf War. They struck Saddam Hussein's forces to push them from Kuwait, patrolled no-fly zones in Iraq for more than a decade, and fought wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Last year, they returned to strike Islamic State militants on the ground in Iraq and Syria.

Last week, the Pentagon and Russian military reached an agreement to avoid conflict among pilots flying missions in Syria. Defense Secretary Ash Carter on Friday said the Russian attacks have targeted opponents of Assad in Syria, where the civil war has killed more than 200,000 people.

"What the Russians are actually doing is buttressing the Assad regime, which, as I have said, will have the effect of fanning the flames of the civil war," Carter said. "And very few of their strikes have been directed toward ISIL, which is the reason why they said, initially, they were getting into the fight. So the Russians are on the wrong side of this in every way, and they're going to contribute to the violence and the tragedy of the civil war that's been going on now, all these years."

Russian lawmakers said Sunday that Assad would be willing to call early elections, the Associated Press reported, but only after the defeat of "terrorist" groups, which is how the government refers to all of its armed opposition.
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nicky

Junior Member
"Correspondent David Martin gets an unprecedented look inside the command center where the U.S. is conducting its air war against ISIS"

wow, did they learn something about pr from the russians?
by comparison russian mod conducts daily briefings for russian and foreign journalists right from the first day of bombing campaign with videos, maps, etc. .
of course, journalists are free to attend and not report of this ...

"Russian warplanes sent to Syria to back the regime of Bashar Assad are breaking down at a rapid rate that appears to be affecting their ability to strike targets, according to a senior Defense official."

with less than poor performance of the coalition forces against russian airstrikes, one can only resort to rumors, unspecified sources or tales of inexperienced russian pilots and planes falling apart.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
the official-Russian part of the story (I anyway translated the obvious; found at a Russian blogsite, in total: 930 sorties flown between September 30 and October 22 officially destroyed 819 targets):
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the USA Today part of the story:
Harsh conditions are foiling Russian jets in Syria

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Heh!, Heh!, Heh!, the truth is, it ain't as easy as it looks, granted US and Coalition forces have a lot of experience with this, and have paid the price. For those who will inevitably feel compelled to defend those fabulous almost omnipotent Russians, I'd definitely put 2 cups of sugar in that "Russian Kool-aide", that nasty stuff won't go down easy, won't stay down either, but hey its your own credibility here on SDF that is at stake?? drink up!
 
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