PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

[Intrepid]

Of course it isn't possible on the CDG. It only has one catapult on the bow and I was talking about launching using both cats forward and while simultaneously landing.

If Liaoning had two cats on the bow, you couldn't use the lefthand cat when landing operation is in progress.

 

[SpicySichuan]

If Liaoning had two cats on the bow, you couldn't use the lefthand cat when landing operation is in progress.

One thing I have kept wondering is how wide (beam) a carrier's deck needs to be. The J-15 is a much bigger aircraft than the F/A-18, Dassault Rafale, and F-35C. Therefore, I guess future Chinese super carriers have to wider beam than the U.S. Navy standard 76-78 meters. The Ulyanovsk would have had a width of 85 meters, but only 320 meters long (as opposed to the Nimitz's 330 meters). That would have made the Ulyanovsk a chubby guy like Brezhnev's belly

 

[Intrepid]

Deckwidth is a function of wingspan and the Greyhounds and Hawkeyes have the most wingspan. Catapult length is a function of take-off mass and speed and the J-11 has 33000 kg. The Skywarriors had 37000 kg.

Chinese carriers will be bigger than now with the need for AEW-aircraft on board.

And there is a third figure: how many aircraft tons can be placed how fare away from the centerline. I don't know this figure.

 

[delft]

If Liaoning had two cats on the bow, you couldn't use the lefthand cat when landing operation is in progress.

If EM cats were built into the ski ramp they would be shorter than the distance from the jet deflector to the bow, which btw is about the length of the US cats, as the fly off speed can be lower due to the vertical component of the aircraft velocity at the bow. There would therefore be no interference between landing on aircraft and using the port cat.

 

[delft]

And there is a third figure: how many aircraft tons can be placed how fare away from the centerline. I don't know this figure.

The weight of all aircraft is but a minute part of the weight of the whole ship. The ship must be kept upright even when the hull were breached by torpedoes so there is a huge ability to pump ballast water from one side of the ship to another, much greater than necessary to compensate for having all aircraft hung outboard on one side.

 

[Franklin]

China can just take the basic Kuznetsov class design and widen the deck by just 2 or 3 meters. Shrink the island size and enlarge the hangar deck. That will be enough to make the new carrier much more effective than the old design. And all that can be achieved relatively easily without the weapons package of the Kuznetsov class and more automation and digitization of the ship. Without the weapons fit out and more automation means more space and fewer crew. And with the weapons package out of the picture from the very beginning the space inside the carrier can be used much more efficiently than what is now the case on the Liaoning.

A catapult or two on the angled deck will give the new design a further boost.

 

[Engineer]

If Liaoning had two cats on the bow, you couldn't use the lefthand cat when landing operation is in progress.

Said who?

 

[Blackstone]

Said who?

Says Mr. Common Sense. Think about it.

 

[Engineer]

If EM cats were built into the ski ramp they would be shorter than the distance from the jet deflector to the bow, which btw is about the length of the US cats, as the fly off speed can be lower due to the vertical component of the aircraft velocity at the bow. There would therefore be no interference between landing on aircraft and using the port cat.

Might as well push the aircraft overboard. That would give you 100% vertical velocity, straight into the sea.

Aircraft need horizontal speed to take off. That's why runways exist. Please review how air foil works... >>>>> Insulting comment removed <<<<<.

 

[Engineer]

Says Mr. Common Sense. Think about it.

Seems like your Mr. Common Sense is an imposter then.