I believe there was discussion of this a while back when the Liaoning made its debut, if I remember correctly it is most likely a space issue requiring modification of the hull which was either too risky or expensive to make.
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I believe there was discussion of this a while back when the Liaoning made its debut, if I remember correctly it is most likely a space issue requiring modification of the hull which was either too risky or expensive to make.
I got a question - I was reading Jeff's excellent compilation of world aircraft carriers and I noticed the Chinese Liaoning only has 3 CWIS - 2 at the back and one at the front right side.
(See picture below)
This raised the question - why do they think it is good idea to only have 3?
Why leave the front left side to attack? Why not put a CWIS there besides the FL-3000N like in the starboard bow?
If the FL-3000N fail to intercept the missiles coming at the front left side the CWIS would be the last line of defence, and since it is not there I think any OPFOR would concentrate their firepower (AShM) from that side since it is the weakest part of the defence.
Ciws is last ditch defence, and HQ-10 is quite a capable ciws in its own right. The fact that there isn't a 1130 in that corner is probably due to space reasons, but at the same time it is hardly a major impediment on liaoning's overall defences. Among carriers, liaoning has quite a respectable ciws set up.
Overall, the lack or presence of a ciws mount isn't that important considering a carrier would have multiple escorts with much more capable medium and long range air defences.
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Meh, either way fun to watch. Thanks for posting.Someone made this, not official.
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6 carrier strike groups 2 for each fleet nice!!!
NSF gets CV-16 and 17
ESF gets CV-18 and CVN-20
SSF gets CV-19 and CVN-20
Each fleet also a marine expeditionary units based around 3 x LPD and 1 x LHD
So that's 6 carriers, 3 x LHD and 9 x LPD for PLAN that's a reasonable force
At anyone time one of fleets has a carrier strike group and MEU deployed at all times in rotation buildiing up from these small scale anti piracy missions
The road ahead is long and steep but a very good challenge for China and I wish China well !
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LOL, this fan-art looks like a evolution of CV16 to the
I am actually quite interested in the CV18 and 19 design, look kind of unique - like a mix of Nimitz class and something else. Does anyone recognize what the deckhouse is from?
I don't think the deck house is based on any existing ships, and also the bottom two deck house is still different from Ford class.
Interesting though 17 has an extra elevator on the left side looking towards the bow. It will be interesting to see if they actually build it that way for their first domestic carrier.
Interesting though 17 has an extra elevator on the left side looking towards the bow. It will be interesting to see if they actually build it that way for their first domestic carrier.
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Which makes it an unlikely concept. The British flattops are meant to operate in the USN operating concept and are still very different from all USN flattops. PLAN ships are bound to be designed for some different operating concept if only because choosing the American model without the vast experience of USN and its fleet size must lead to a weak position on the World oceans that is politically unacceptable. So how could building for a different operating concept lead to a ship of the same shape?
The British QE carriers aren't exactly similar to USN carriers, either in the type of aircraft they're expected to embark or configuration. Sure, they're more similar to USN carriers than the Invincible class were, but they're still quite distinctive from the Nimitz class.
Nor do any of us know exactly what capabilities the PLAN wants their carriers to have, however I wouldn't be surprised if their ultimate goal was to attain similar capabilities to nimitz/ford sized supercarriers, and I think it makes sense for them to try and leverage a proven configuration.
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