J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

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latenlazy

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HI,

There is no surprise over here regarding the BVR missile that has higher kill ratio over a longer distance. It is simple electronics / physics.

I have written either on this forum or another forum a couple of years ago( something similar ) china---in stealth fighter technology---they cannot compete with the U S---. Their other option is to invest in a better / bigger BVR missile and radar systems.
They can't until they can.
 

MastanKhan

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How are you going to guide those missiles against maneuvering targets? Besides, something the size of a B-52/B-1 makes a large/slow/tempting target for interceptors.

Hi,

For an aircraft that size---you will also have a massive aesa radar as well and massive jamming capabilities---. Even though it would be a slow lumbering target---the BVR missiles designed for it could also be double the size of the current BVR missiles which may give it twice the range and with larger and stronger seeker heads----basically putting it out of the reach of the opponents missiles..

PLAAF will have to think out of the box to counter what the U S allies or the U S would be putting up against it in the air.
 

latenlazy

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Hi,

For an aircraft that size---you will also have a massive aesa radar as well and massive jamming capabilities---. Even though it would be a slow lumbering target---the BVR missiles designed for it could also be double the size of the current BVR missiles which may give it twice the range and with larger and stronger seeker heads----basically putting it out of the reach of the opponents missiles..

PLAAF will have to think out of the box to counter what the U S allies or the U S would be putting up against it in the air.
There's a reason why they made the J-20. The strategy you're proposing doesn't work against VLO targets.
 

lllchairmanlll

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Hi, just some new info of J20 AESA from Chinese internet.
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The article is from an official report on Youquan Lin, the chief engineer of China's first AESA radar for fighter jet.

The gold is here:

雷达系统设计水平国内领先,与世界上最先进的装备美国F-22飞机的AN/APG-77雷达相当,为我国新一代战斗机火控

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雷达的研制奠定了坚实的技术基础。

The radar design is the most advanced nation wide (China), is equivalent to F22's AN/APG-77 radar, and it has been a strong foundation for the development of our nation's new generation fighter jet.
 
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visitant

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Hi, just some new info of J20 AESA from Chinese internet.
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The article is from an official report on Youquan Lin, the chief engineer of China's first AESA radar for fighter jet.

The gold is here:

雷达系统设计水平国内领先,与世界上最先进的装备美国F-22飞机的AN/APG-77雷达相当,为我国新一代战斗机火控

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雷达的研制奠定了坚实的技术基础。

The radar design is the most advanced nation wide (China), is equivalent to F22's AN/APG-77 radar, and it has been a strong foundation for the development of our nation's new generation fighter jet.
Very informative article, it confirms some key points on the timeline of J20's AESA:

Pre-research stage, “九五”(around 1996-2000).
Prototype stage, no later than 2000, they've begun making a early prototype.
In 2009/2010 the project was awarded by the company and governments, so the radar finished no later than 2009.
 

tphuang

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Hi,

For an aircraft that size---you will also have a massive aesa radar as well and massive jamming capabilities---. Even though it would be a slow lumbering target---the BVR missiles designed for it could also be double the size of the current BVR missiles which may give it twice the range and with larger and stronger seeker heads----basically putting it out of the reach of the opponents missiles..

PLAAF will have to think out of the box to counter what the U S allies or the U S would be putting up against it in the air.

This is not a PLAAF vs USAF thread. It's a J-20 thread. Please take your proposal to another thread.

Hi, just some new info of J20 AESA from Chinese internet.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
The article is from an official report on Youquan Lin, the chief engineer of China's first AESA radar for fighter jet.

The gold is here:

雷达系统设计水平国内领先,与世界上最先进的装备美国F-22飞机的AN/APG-77雷达相当,为我国新一代战斗机火控

View attachment 11236

雷达的研制奠定了坚实的技术基础。

The radar design is the most advanced nation wide (China), is equivalent to F22's AN/APG-77 radar, and it has been a strong foundation for the development of our nation's new generation fighter jet.

wrong thread, the radar based on original article (not this sina junk) was about J-10B radar. Please stop posting junk from sina.
 

Blitzo

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wrong thread, the radar based on original article (not this sina junk) was about J-10B radar. Please stop posting junk from sina.

This is why I think it will be useful to have a master post or at least a thread naming and/or discussing the reliable sources and the typical non reliable sources from which everyone sources their info and pics from... It'll help new members get their bearings quicker and contribute to the conversation faster and maybe even cause some mainstream media to reassess what's useful and what isn't for PLA matters given how many of their breakthroughs are often indirectly sourced from here...
 

davidwangqi

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Here should be where this article originally came from
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And I feel the source is quite reliable. Actually, it could be the first time that the China's airborne AESA for fighters was reported officially.

wrong thread, the radar based on original article (not this sina junk) was about J-10B radar. Please stop posting junk from sina.
 

tphuang

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Here should be where this article originally came from
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And I feel the source is quite reliable. Actually, it could be the first time that the China's airborne AESA for fighters was reported officially.

The original source is reliable. Things posted on sina are not necessarily so.

I guess I wasn't obvious with my original reply, but I have shifted it to J-10B already, which means I consider original to be reliable. Please continue the discussion there or in a radar related thread.
 
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