055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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The 20,000 ton design could have resulted from limitations in technology (might have had a less efficient propulsion, among other things, and maybe it even had the Type 052C's VLS, if the design dated all the way back to 2004-2006 and no one was sure if the Type 052D's VLS would work).
Or the size of the sensor array that is required to handle stealth target. Large sensors requires more top weight, which requires larger ships.
the way i see it, the ledges could be
A) mockup related but not ship related. But not only can i not think of a purpose why they'd need such a ledge just for construction purposes but also those ledges happen to follow the line of the top of the last deck. A simple temporary ledge/balcony for construction purpose would be quite crude and not precisely follow the other lines of the ship. which i don't believe option A is even plausible.
B) ledges are going to be part of the final ship.
B.1) they're part of the third deck as a vantage point for the command bridge, for docking ops and various needs, more like a balcony. - but those balconies seldomly are enclosed and if they are - who builds the roof first, then the rest of it? furthermore, there's no provisions visible on the third deck for such an extension, that side of the command bridge deck looks like a finished product.
B.2) they're part of the fourth deck, either as the vantage balcony or actual enclosed structure on top of the third deck, possibly even housing radar systems. - possible, but it'd mean command bridge is going to be on the fourth deck. only reason why one would nowadays have a high positioned bridge is if radar arrays are below it. More plausible variant would be the command bridge on third deck, as it'd already have a vantage point looking backwards, as there's that large walkway behind the forward superstructure.
B.3.) perhaps most plausible solution that i can think of is that the ledge is going to be a simple platform/railless balcony that will house some sensors that aren't going to be enclosed in the larger structure. like various el. emission receivers, comm antennas etc. And that for some reason they couldn't have been placed on top of the superstructure roof itself, as they need extra spacing or the roof is going to be taken by a large array-housing structure (as elements on that also need some spacing to clear the other elements) and so on.
while anything is possible since the mock up clearly isn't finished, i don't see much logic in first floor over the main deck missing anything but side walls to connect with the edge of the ship. i'm talking about mock-up building process here. And we might even not see that finished ever, if there's no need for it. To have the large, uninterrupted surface in the same level as floor of second deck i believe we'd see the the back part of the front superstructure (the one that's one deck high) already as wide as the ship. But it doesn't look as wide to me. Plus some holes on the side wall of the first deck that supports the main structure walkway with large windows. But that wall also looks quite finished, as if there is nothing to be added there aside of the sheet of metal to act as an outer side wall.
All that being said, i actually like the idea of enclosing the vls bay with walls, as the drawing suggests. Of course, if one did it with aft vls bay, it'd be a crime not to do it with forward bls bay as well.
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Oh I forgot I also heard this on the Phoenix Television Military Show. They mentioned propulsion issues too.
Phoenix is just a tad better than a David Axe. They suck at parsing their online sources and have a lot of talking heads who have no serious expertise.
Propulsion issues regarding 055? Or just propulsion issues in general.
More importantly, some of the experts they bring in on Chinese TV military shows don't have that much expertise (having watched a number of such segments), and that goes for both state media and non state.
So basically, what they are saying isn't particularly credible.
The only real credible source of military info from TV is typically the documentaries on the development of specific projects, however they tend to focus on the history of projects rather than technical details
AssassinsMace
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Isn't Phoenix TV based in Hong Kong? If so, not so hard to believe they would perpetuate anti-China propaganda.
antiterror13
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do you mean "Integrated electric propulsion (IEP)", I believe China hasn't mastered it yet for now, so the first batch of 055 will not have IEP. As far as I know, only British 45 DDG and Zumwalt have IEP (and Queen Mary 2 for commercial ship)
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