PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

Blitzo

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

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TerraN_EmpirE

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Well that's ahhh... Unique. No way that thing on the surface could be confused for any other boat..
maybe a attempt at reducing drag? Of course that has to house something. More missiles? Larger missiles? Perhaps swimmer lock outs? Unmanned submerged crafts? Intelligence gathering equipment? Cruise missiles? Cargo? Fuel pods? President Xia's personal harem? All of the above?
 
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Skywatcher

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

In theory, if you keep the reactor size the same, a larger hull volume would make the submarine quieter.

But that's just in theory, mind you.
 

Hyperwarp

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Well the Ohio & Triomphant class SSBN hadly have a hump. Even in the Borei class the hump is almost non-existent viewing from the sides and overall much less than the Delta class.

So maybe there is reason other than just aesthetics.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Well the Ohio & Triomphant class SSBN hadly have a hump. Even in the Borei class the hump is almost non-existent viewing from the sides and overall much less than the Delta class.

So maybe there is reason other than just aesthetics.
Usually the hump on the SSBNs has been there directly for the housing of the large SLBMs. If you want the advantages in terms of water flow over the hull, quietness, etc. of not having a hump, either you make the hull larger (ie. like the Typhoons for the Russians) or the missiles smaller.

In the US case, even the Trident missiles are small enough to fiut into the Ohio class hull, which is much smaller than the Typhoon.

Some examples of the hull diameter for SSBNs with little or no "hump":

Russian Typhoon Class SSBN: 75 ft. 6 inches
Russian Borei Class SSBN: 44 ft.
US Navy Ohio Class SSBN: 42 ft.
Royal Navy Vanguard Class SSBN: 42 ft.
French Triomphant Class SSBN: 41 ft.

Not surprising for the Ohio and Vanguard as they carry exactly the same missile.
 

chuck731

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Usually the hump on the SSBNs has been there directly for the housing of the large SLBMs. If you want the advantages in terms of water flow over the hull, quietness, etc. of not having a hump, either you make the hull larger (ie. like the Typhoons for the Russians) or the missiles smaller.

In the US case, even the Trident missiles are small enough to fiut into the Ohio class hull, which is much smaller than the Typhoon.

Some examples of the hull diameter for SSBNs with little or no "hump":

Russian Typhoon Class SSBN: 75 ft. 6 inches
Russian Borei Class SSBN: 44 ft.
US Navy Ohio Class SSBN: 42 ft.
Royal Navy Vanguard Class SSBN: 42 ft.
French Triomphant Class SSBN: 41 ft.

Not surprising for the Ohio and Vanguard as they carry exactly the same missile.


Typhoon's total beam is 75 feet, but she has 2 pressure hulls side by side. Each pressure hull depth and diameter is only around 35 feet.

But because her hydrodyanmic hull is substantially deeper than her pressure hull, you might say she actually has the equivalent of a pretty tall hump across both of her pressure hulls. But the hump is so well integrated into her hydrodynamic shape that it is not noticeable.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

In the case of Typhoon the missiles are not actually in the pressure hull the double hull made of two delta class SSBNs. Combined with the outer hull allows for typhoons massive size. Damn thing even has a crude swimming pool.
 

SinoSoldier

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

This is the improved 094, the one with the integrated hump and conning tower, that was spotted on satellite a few months ago.
 
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