071 LPD thread

[Preux]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

But the issue is insufficient LCACs if you are going to make a statement from a picture with one LCAC that the PLAN does not intend to use them very heavily. There was only one available to use...so that's all they could put there.

My point is that until they have quite a few more we will not know for sure what their preferred strategy will be. Perhaps they will go with just two per Type 071, and the rest amphib IFV, as you say. I think it will depend entirely on the particular operation.

My own guess is, that since they have built these very capable vessels with the capacity for four, they will use them for that, and use their many 072s as part of an Amphibious Ready Group when they "hit the beaches," to send in the IFVs from those vessels.

If the PLAN coupled 2-3 Type 072s with each Type 071, they could send in a large number of all sorts of IFVs from the Type 072s in each wave, and up to four LCACs in each wave.

If they had two Type 071s and 4-6 Type 072s, they could just double all of that for each wave.

That's how I would use them.

The PLAN could develop a significant air assault behind lines, or on a flank with helos from the Type 071s and perhaps from the carrier too, depending on the size of operation...get that fully engaged and progressing, then when the timing is right, hit the beach with the IFVs and LCACs.

I think a very strong indication that they at least intended a high number of LCAC per LHD scenario is the fact that they went for a long well deck. If a vehicle-based assault scenario were what they had in mind, they would have gone for a larger vehicle deck which would give greater flexibility while still retaining enough well deck space for 2 LCACs.

 

[Jeff Head]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I think a very strong indication that they at least intended a high number of LCAC per LHD scenario is the fact that they went for a long well deck. If a vehicle-based assault scenario were what they had in mind, they would have gone for a larger vehicle deck which would give greater flexibility while still retaining enough well deck space for 2 LCACs.

Well and succinctly said.

They have some flexability with the current layout, but it is definitely tilted towards flexability with LCACs. I am sure we will see this once more of their LCAC are built and available to them.

 

[Lion]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I think a very strong indication that they at least intended a high number of LCAC per LHD scenario is the fact that they went for a long well deck. If a vehicle-based assault scenario were what they had in mind, they would have gone for a larger vehicle deck which would give greater flexibility while still retaining enough well deck space for 2 LCACs.

Not neccessary true. Most of the PLAN mechanized asset are amphibious, they can still stay in the well deck and fit well together with LCAC. As show by the picture in the previous post. PLAN probably decide to go with the long well deck design more due to flexibility. If there's a need, I believe they can add in temporary platform to accomodate more non amphibious vehicle like trucks and heavy MBT.

The very fact, they build up large number of ZBD2000 fast amphibious mechanized. I don't think they are going to quickly abandon this concept sooner. PLAN don't spend money in this way.

 

[delft]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I agree with Jeff. PLAN doesn't need LPD's or LHD's for the foreseeable future but if the unforeseen future nears they want to be in a position to rapidly build up amphibious capability. For now they might hurry up development somewhat by spending vast amounts of money but there is simply no reason to do so. In the circumstances the delay we see in the production of LCAC's might be regrettable but it is not a disaster. No doubt LHD's are planned but their production will have to await an adequate production rate of suitable helicopters.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I'm just thinking about the well deck, it's more than 120m in length and that means it can handle 12 rows of vehicles in 4 columns, because the vehicles in question are less than 10m and we can see they can manage 4 in a row from the picture below, this means they can load 48 vehicles in the well deck but it doesn't end there

In front of the well deck is a another compartment, and I think they could manage 12 further vehicles in here meaning they could load 48 in the well deck and another 12 in this compartment meaning 60 vehicles in total

So each LPD can easily transport 50-60 vehicles fully loaded

We can see the well deck from the inside of this compartment

Another shot of the compartment

 

[ladioussupp]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

One thing about the helicopters is that a Type 071 can theoretically carry more than 4 Z-8s for a short mission (like one in Taiwan or around China's near sea). You can put four in the hangar, put like 8 in one of the landing spot and just use one to take-off and land. I remember someone showing a picture how you can lay this out in CDF. The landing deck is large enough to land 2 Z-8 and 1 Z-9 at the same time. Of course, it's not ideal, but do-able in good sea conditions and short range missions.

CCTV Screen Captured

 

[ladioussupp]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Look at the boats and the pipes. Have they moved from photo one? No they haven't. But where's traffic light one? It's not in the photo.

CCTV Screen Captured

 

[escobar]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

report on 071 LPD

[video=youtube;i_bEpgcc6X4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bEpgcc6X4#t=0s[/video]

 

[luhai]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

report on 071 LPD

[video=youtube;i_bEpgcc6X4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bEpgcc6X4#t=0s[/video]

9:55-10:20

China's next large landing shiping may be a LHD with displacement between 30,000t and 40,000t. However, the person saying is an "miitary expert" rather than from the military itself.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

CSIC recently showed a LHD design for the Turkish tender, it could land 8 helos, weights 30,000 +tons and more than 1,100 marines and has a well deck

No doubt China can build these LHD question is when