F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Jeff Head]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

JSM has been check fitted on the F-35's external station. This is the only anti-ship missile currently designed for internal carriage in F-35:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Uhh...this same story was posted about five posts ago on this thread at post #644[/url.

I personally don't mind the double post...but just thought you should know. We've been discussing it up to just a post or so ago...and it's good news and a good weapon system. 280km range and 125kg warhead from an air launched anti-surface (good for either vessels or ground targets) missile.

 

[Jeff Head]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

congress is fighting over the funding of the F-35, and bad news keeps coming in. I think not everything in the F-35 program is going to survive, the most likely part might be dropped could be the C.

Not going to happen.

The "C" is indespinsable for the carriers. This admin may cut numbers...and they may do that for all services...but they will not cut the "C" entirely because it is the Navy's next generation aircraft and they simply have to move past the intial Hornets now...they are getting too long in the tooth.

So we will see Super Hornets and JSFs flying off of carrier decks, soon to be augmented by a small squadron of UCAVs as soon as the X-47B is qcompletely tested and qualified and cleared for production.

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

I think in A to A combat I still pin my chances on a Raptor anyday or night over the Lighting despite it having more 'lines of codes' than the Raptor.

Of course you are right Kwaigonegin, and as the Jedi master, I'm sure you would agree the X wing is much better than a TIE fighter, in any respect, there won't ever, never, ever be another F-22, its simply not "doable" in todays market, and the philosophy that built the Raptor, is very rare DNA, only true Jedi's have it, the Force is strong with YOU! Brat

 

[LesAdieux]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Not going to happen.

The "C" is indespinsable for the carriers. This admin may cut numbers...and they may do that for all services...but they will not cut the "C" entirely because it is the Navy's next generation aircraft and they simply have to move past the intial Hornets now...they are getting too long in the tooth.

So we will see Super Hornets and JSFs flying off of carrier decks, soon to be augmented by a small squadron of UCAVs as soon as the X-47B is qcompletely tested and qualified and cleared for production.

sorry, I was confused by the different variants. I meant the STOVL variant for the marine.

cut is inevitable, LM and Pratt know that, that's why Bogdan accused them "selling every plane and engine as if it is the last one".

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

sorry, I was confused by the different variants. I meant the STOVL variant for the marine.

cut is inevitable, LM and Pratt know that, that's why Bogdan accused them "selling every plane and engine as if it is the last one".

No, they will NOT cut the B, the STOVL version, because the Brits two newest carriers have been designed with ramps to operate the B, and not cats to operate the C. The Brits will be crossdecking with the US and will CO-OP to both our benefit, so if it were just the US Marines I might think huummmh, but since the Brits are invested in 48Bs, they will most certainly get their birds, as they are our most important partner, even though others may order more aircraft, and AUS is close behind, although they have planned on the A and have two in the system, Great Britain will most certainly follow through on their commitment, others may not????? but we shall see. Now having said that, almost all the other customers will cut the numbers of birds ordered, especially in the initial LRIPs and try to hold off and buy when the costs come down, I believe AUS will do that and tide themselves over with SHornets in the meantime?

Bogdan is playing "bad cop" for the BHO administration who told him to strong-arm LockMart, now BHOs lack of business savvy is out there for all to see, he doesn't understand schmoozing the contractor and trying to play buds to get what you want, LockMart may play hardball with Bogdan and BHO, and in fact BHO may try a company takeover just as he did with GM, when he took it from the stockholders and owners and gave it to the unions, this was unprecedented and hypocritical, but there is little doubt he is trying to "stiff them for some payments", so this could get very ugly with sequestration and high unemployment, govt income will come down? Your are reading the tea leaves and yes there will be cuts, who, and how many are the question IMHO???? Brat

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

sorry, I was confused by the different variants. I meant the STOVL variant for the marine.

cut is inevitable, LM and Pratt know that, that's why Bogdan accused them "selling every plane and engine as if it is the last one".

What will without a doubt occur, is that when this economy does "run off the cliff", and our creditors will call in their chits, and then we will see and hear things that we never thought could happen, when BHO can no longer throw money at the problem, he will then own this mess with the American Public, and when those payments for every little thing stop coming, and then things will hit the fan, and the cuts won't be a question of if or when, but what can we save out of this mess, this debt will hit the "wall"???? then what, and that is the 64 million dollar question? what folks are beginning to realize is this will not be an American problem, but a global problem???? Brat

 

[LesAdieux]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

No, they will NOT cut the B, the STOVL version, because the Brits two newest carriers have been designed with ramps to operate the B, and not cats to operate the C. The Brits will be crossdecking with the US and will CO-OP to both our benefit, so if it were just the US Marines I might think huummmh, but since the Brits are invested in 48Bs, they will most certainly get their birds, as they are our most important partner, even though others may order more aircraft, and AUS is close behind, although they have planned on the A and have two in the system, Great Britain will most certainly follow through on their commitment, others may not????? but we shall see. Now having said that, almost all the other customers will cut the numbers of birds ordered, especially in the initial LRIPs and try to hold off and buy when the costs come down, I believe AUS will do that and tide themselves over with SHornets in the meantime?

america can tell the brits that it has no money to develop the B, if the brits insist, they can go alone. I think the brits will go back to cats, not the one they cannot afford, but the old steam-cats, like the french de gaulle.

 

[Jeff Head]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

sorry, I was confused by the different variants. I meant the STOVL variant for the marine.

cut is inevitable, LM and Pratt know that, that's why Bogdan accused them "selling every plane and engine as if it is the last one".

Same indespinsable nature for the "B" STOVL variant holds.

Indespinsable to the US Marines. The only fixed wing, attack aircraft capable of flying off of the two new America class, aircraft centric LHAs, will be the F-35B, which these two vessels are being built specifically with this aircraft and the Osprey in mind. They will also be the only aircraft capable of operating off of the other eight US Navy LHDs.

Ten 40,000+ ton hel/aircraft carriers are a pretty good reason for them not to be cancelled outright.

And then, you add the two UK Queen Elizabeth class in there which will depend entirely on the "B" version, as well as other nations who will need it ultimately (think Spain, Italy, Australia (who is already ordering "A", but there Canberra's may one day need the "B"), potential for Japan and Korea...no, the "B" will be built. Count on that. Just how many?

Yes, while overall numbers will almost certainly be reduced, the "B" variant will have to be procurred and produced. The Harriers are as old as the Hornets and very long in the tooth as well.

 

[LesAdieux]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Same indespinsable nature for the "B" STOVL variant holds.

Indespinsable to the US Marines. The only fixed wing, attack aircraft capable of flying off of the two new America class, aircraft centric LHAs, will be the F-35B, which these two vessels are being built specifically with this aircraft and the Osprey in mind. They will also be the only aircraft capable of operating off of the other eight US Navy LHDs.

Ten 40,000+ ton hel/aircraft carriers are a pretty good reason for them not to be cancelled outright.

And then, you add the two UK Queen Elizabeth class in there which will depend entirely on the "B" version, as well as other nations who will need it ultimately (think Spain, Italy, Australia (who is already ordering "A", but there Canberra's may one day need the "B"), potential for Japan and Korea...no, the "B" will be built. Count on that. Just how many?

Yes, while overall numbers will almost certainly be reduced, the "B" variant will have to be procurred and produced. The Harriers are as old as the Hornets and very long in the tooth as well.

every variant has a reason to exist, as for how indespensable? it depends on the budget.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

every variant has a reason to exist, as for how indespensable? it depends on the budget.

no chance, 2 units of the F35B are delivered to Elgin Air Force base where UK pilots are undergoing tests and evalution, the final order for F35B is hundreds of units there is no scope for a cancelation, it will serve for the next 50 years a few years late and a few $$$ over budget doesnt change much in the grand scheme of things

if they cancel F25B 2 America Class LHD will be useless cus they dont have a well deck because they are designed for air centric missions and 2 QE carriers costing >£5 billion will also be useless