London Summer Olympics 2012

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cn_habs

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I think the Chinese Olympians did quite well, considering the hostile crowd, media, and officials they faced. Cheers to them.

As to all the scandal that happened during this Olympics, I think it will leave a large mark on Chinese public opinion. I for one believe this is the worst Olympics in recent history.

It might not be the worst be it's right up there among the mediocre ones because of the controversies and scandals in a variety of disciplines. I can't believe Romney was actually right in saying that London organizers could have done a way better job.
 

solarz

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Once the medals have been counted, I will bet that the Chinese officials are going to start complaining about the lost medals, including the DQed badminton players. Of course, by then, they would look petty. This is why I think they should stick up for their athletes right away.
 

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Congratulations to Mexico aka El Tri for defeating Brazil to gain the Olympic Gold Medal in Soccer(Futbol)!!!

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Mexico's players pose with their gold medals during the podium ceremony after the football match against Brazil at the London Olympic Games on August 11, 2012 at the Wembley stadium in London. AFP PHOTO / LUIS ACOSTA (Photo credit should read LUIS ACOSTA/AFP/GettyImages)

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Heavily favored Brazil once again suffered an unexpected defeat in the Olympic men's soccer final as Mexico took its first gold medal in the sport. Mexico proved to be the sharper side from the very beginning of the match, stunning Brazil with the fastest goal ever in an Olympic soccer final 29 seconds into the match on the way to a 2-1 win.

A careless short pass from Brazil defender Rafael led to the quick goal for Oribe Peralta to give Mexico an instant lead. The only other player to score in the first minute of an Olympic football final was Milan Galic for Yugoslavia's gold-medal winners in 1960.

Though Brazil controlled possession for much of the game following that opening goal, Mexico looked sharp and dangerous in the counter attack while 31-year-old captain and goalkeeper Jose Corona made a number of big saves. Brazil's desperation set in early as it subbed on Hulk just 30 minutes into the game and eventually added Pato and Lucas later on. But even with all that talent, Brazil struggled to get meaningful shots off.

Peralta made up for the absence of injured leading goal scorer Gio Dos Santos by adding a second goal in the 75th minute to give Mexico a 2-0 and all but seal the game. Brazil would provide a bit of a fightback very late on when Hulk finally scored in added time and Oscar missed with a header right in front of goal before the final whistle.

So Brazil's Olympic curse continues as they now have three silver medals and two bronze yet still no gold in soccer. For Mexico, this is not only the first gold in football, but first gold medal of any kind. There's no doubt this is a golden generation for Mexico that's on the rise.
 
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I think the Chinese Olympians did quite well, considering the hostile crowd, media, and officials they faced. Cheers to them.

As to all the scandal that happened during this Olympics, I think it will leave a large mark on Chinese public opinion. I for one believe this is the worst Olympics in recent history.

The crowd wasn't always hostile to China, look at the standing ovations and sportsmanship they gave to hurdler Liu Xiang when he got hurt. It's only the media that are sometimes nasty and idiotic on their ever desperate attempts to put down China and its CCP government. One can read it in the writings that can obscure from the facts.
 

Mr T

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I think the Chinese Olympians did quite well, considering the hostile crowd, media, and officials they faced. Cheers to them.

That's very unfair. The crowds were not hostile to Chinese athletes. In any event where British athletes were represented, of course they would get the most cheers. But I don't recall Chinese athletes getting a hostile reception, apart from the badminton game (and then all the players were booed).

I for one believe this is the worst Olympics in recent history.

You have it backward. Definitely one of the best Olympics in recent history.
 

jackliu

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I guess this is it, one of the "free media" have early set the tone, and now the rest of them follows. Yep, when China wins, they are focus too much on winning, so it is bad, when China loses, their system is inferior so it is also bad. Yep, there is absolutely NOTHING China does can ever be good in the "free media".

Absolutely no mention of the actual hard work from the player themselves, absolutely no credit given to the successful consequences of the athlete that have succeeded. Nope, everyone of them are just pure robots, being created from the soulless assembly plant.

"Free media" Just like Fox News Fair and Balanced, don't you guys just love it?

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LONDON – By now everyone should understand that China's sports machine is not going to slow. China's goal was never to build big just for the Beijing Games in 2008. The goal was to build big for Beijing, then dominate the world.
"The intention of the Chinese is to win every medal, every single medal," said Jeff Ruffolo, an American who has worked for the Chinese government to help plan several sports competitions including the 2008 Olympics.
"Watch what happens in Rio," added Ruffolo, referring to the 2016 Games in Brazil. "Watch what happens in 2020. The Chinese want to prove to the world that their system is the best system."
[ Related: USA looks to be the favorite to finish at the top of the medal table ]
Somehow people seem surprised that the Chinese are fighting again to win the medal count in these Olympics. But ever since China allowed its teams to compete in the 1984 Summer Games after a 32-year absence, the Chinese have gone from winning 32 medals in Los Angeles to 100 in Beijing. The churning of medals is so steady now that the Chinese are going to compete to win medal counts for the next several Olympics.

Potential Chinese Olympians are identified and groomed at a young age. (Reuters)
The stories about China in recent weeks have been shocking. Some news outlets have told of young rising athletes enduring near-torturous conditions at Chinese sports schools. There was also the tale of diver Wu Minxia who, upon winning the gold medal in the 3-meter diving competition, finally learned of her mother's illness and her grandmother's death last year. Though Wu later denied the story, saying she knew her mother was sick and her grandmother died, it seemed to show the worst of a country so obsessed with winning Olympic medals that nothing human matters.
Even in defending the system, Wu sounded like a lonely swimming robot, telling Agence France-Presse: "Parents seldom come to our training base. However, we are like a big family. We train together from different bases."
But the reward comes in medals. And medals in China are very important. As one Chinese journalist, who asked not to be quoted for fear of reprisals back home, said: "The gold medal is very important in China. It makes us feel strong."
Or as Ruffolo said: "It's national pride."
[ Video: China's Liu Xiang experiences heartbreak, then heroic ending in hurdles ]
A few years ago, an American table tennis player who grew up in China told me how she came to be a table tennis player. It was when she was young, around second grade, and one day someone from the government came into her classroom carrying a bucket and three table tennis balls. Each student had to toss the balls into the bucket. Those who threw two in the bucket were offered a chance to leave their school and go to one for table tennis.
The idea, she said, was that the children who could throw two balls in the bucket must have a good feel for the ball. That was all the sport's coaches needed. The rest: skill, determination and desire could all be taught later. All that mattered was the feel.

Taekwondo athlete Wu Jingyu is one of many Chinese gold medalists in London. (AP)
Ruffolo, who wrote a book on his experience working for the Chinese in 2008 called "Inside the Beijing Olympics," said China's sports officials search all over the country looking for children with athletic potential. Perhaps a few boys are kicking a soccer ball in a park or chasing each other on the sidewalk. A government representative might notice one who looks faster than the others. This will interest the government representative who will contact the boy's family to gauge its interest in sending the boy to a sports academy.
The academy will be near the child's house. He will train during the day, take classes and go home to his parents at night. If he excels in training, he will be allowed to participate in local competitions. If those go well, he might be moved to larger regional competitions where further success might lead to a spot in the national sports academy in Beijing, where he will be one of dozens training in the same sport.
"They look for diamonds in the rough," Ruffolo said. "They know it's a long haul and they want someone who can handle it. The No. 1 or No. 2 athlete [in the rankings] might fall down from that standing later. They look at the person who is fifth or sixth. They look at that diamond and say, 'He needs polishing,' He might not be ready for London so we will hold him for Rio.' "
The Chinese have no problem doing this, he says. The goal is to win medals and establish a long line of athletes ready to fill an Olympic spot if the other falters.
[ Related: Were Chinese diver Wu Minxia's Olympic medals worth the lie? ]
Once, Ruffolo spoke to a young tennis star who told him her whole existence is tennis.
"She lives in a bubble," Ruffolo said. "She has no life, but she knows if she doesn't do well there are 20 nameless, faceless people behind her."
And while similar systems exist in the United States, particularly in private entities like tennis academies, the scope is not as vast or as much of a national goal as China's. Since the Chinese care little about sports leagues, they keep their focus solely on the Olympics. They target international competitions like the Asian Games, World University Games and countless individual sports world championships, hosting a number of them in off-years between the Olympics.
This gives China's coaches a chance to watch their athletes competing in an Olympic-type venue. If, for instance, the divers don't perform well, the coaches will have time to make adjustments, perfecting their dives in time for the Summer Games.
Other countries can't do this. Once the U.S. hosted dozens of big amateur tournaments but such things aren't popular now with local officials. The cost of building or remodeling facilities to meet modern standards is too much. Few municipalities in America are willing to fund an international volleyball tournament, not when they are struggling to keep staffing schools or pay into employees' pension plans.
"China doesn't care," Ruffolo said. "In China, there is only one government and money is no object. They will build the facilities. It's no object to them. They will keep adding these events."
Since Ruffolo has worked for the Chinese government and still lives in China and still helps plan sports events for the government, his view on the effectiveness of the country's sports machine is obviously going to be optimistic. But there is also no doubt that China is moving quickly toward athletic dominance, especially in smaller, specialized sports that aren't well-funded in other countries, giving the Chinese an automatic economic advantage.
Four years after Beijing, the Chinese sports machine is churning. The question now is how much farther will it go.
 

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A couple of items about the Olympics..

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The United States is one of only three countries where Olympic athletes receive no government funding. Instead the U.S. Olympic Committee relies exclusively on income from the sale of television broadcast rights and from corporate sponsors. Steve Roush, chief of sports performance with the U.S. Olympic Committee, says while the system is not political, the U.S. Olympic program must compete for sponsors with professional teams.

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China has been swept by a wave of patriotism sparked by the country's success at the London Olympics -- and headline-grabbing scandals have not dampened the mood.

From table tennis and shooting to diving and swimming, the gold medals have poured in, and hundreds of millions of Chinese have been glued to the wall-to-wall coverage of the Games on state TV.

Meanwhile the controversies that have hit the country's campaign -- unsubstantiated claims of doping in the pool and a badminton match-throwing furor -- have largely been met with anger or defensiveness.

"With each gold medal that China wins, I feel my heart leap," said saleswoman Huang Weiwei as she ate lunch in a Beijing fast-food restaurant, her eyes fixed on a wall-mounted TV showing the Games.

China are second in the medals table -- behind the United States -- with 20 golds, 13 silvers and nine bronzes, and there are plenty more opportunities with a week of the Games still to go.

After she leaves her shop in the fashionable district of Sanlitun, Huang, 26, eats dinner then sits down to watch the Olympics until midnight.

She can only see a few live events because of the time difference, but that has not stopped state television showing Olympics programs almost constantly.

State-run TV's CCTV-5 has even been transformed into the official Olympic channel, broadcasting patriotic reports in which the red national flag with its five stars makes constant appearances.

The country's 2012 Olympics heroes so far include table tennis player Zhang Jike, swimmers Sun Yang and Ye Shiwen, diver Wu Minxia and Yi Siling, who won in the 10m air rifle competition.

"The Chinese are excelling in many disciplines," said Sun Yue, a young woman who lives in the capital. "The success in organizing the 2008 Beijing Games has given the athletes confidence."

With almost perfect organization and a colossal budget, China's first hosting of an Olympics four years ago provided the Asian giant with an opportunity to flex its muscles in spectacular fashion on the world stage.

The vast majority of Chinese that AFP talked to seemed convinced that London's effort would not match Beijing's, and the Games are being scrutinized for any missteps.

Estate agent employee Wang Hou was annoyed that the Chinese flag appeared to be hung below the South Korean flag, and not at the same level, as medals were given out Monday for the men's 200m freestyle.

China's Sun Yang and South Korea's Park Tae-Hwan finished tied second.

While such incidents may seem like footnotes in the story of this year's Olympics, they have been reported in minute detail by China's state-run media.

For a country that has always put huge emphasis on Olympic success to project itself as a leading world power, it is unsurprising that any setbacks to its carefully planned campaign are extremely sensitive.

Unsubstantiated allegations of doping leveled at swimmer Ye Shiwen, 16, who won gold in the women's 400m individual medley in a world-record time, sparked public outrage.

"The truth is that Westerners can't accept the fact that the Chinese swimming team has improved enormously," said Wang Hou, adding his voice to those of thousands of web users who have denounced what they see as the West's arrogance.

And while there was some shame after badminton star Yu Yang retired from the sport after being disqualified for throwing a match, many chose to blame the system instead of the player.

On Thursday, the show "Dialogue" on the CCTV news channel focused on the refusal of the BBC to apologise after one of its renowned journalists questioned swimmer Ye's performance live on air.

Presenter Yang Rui also described as "disturbing" an article in British newspaper the Daily Mail headlined "Torture or training?", which focused on the harsh conditions at a gym in the southern city of Nanning.

According to the tabloid, children begin training in the gym from the age of five to give them years to prepare for major competitions.

"Without such a Chinese way of training its own athletes, China probably would be... like India in terms of the medal count," said analyst Gao Zhikai on the show.

India, with a population of 1.2 billion, had a meager haul of one gold and two bronzes in Beijing, and are currently languishing in the medals table at the London Games with one silver and one bronze.

"The rest of the world should try to see what China has done to really make such big progress, rather than focusing on the negative aspects," added Gao.
 

AssassinsMace

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Are we surprised? Anything that puts their belief in their own superiority into question will be attacked. It wasn't too long ago when there was a scientific study that got some media attention about sports and race where it said people from African and Europe had different types of muscle "twitching" where one gave Africans great sprinting ability while those from Europe had greater endurance. This is supposedly why Africans were winning track and field events and Europeans would win marathons. But then today you see Africans winning marathons as well. Just goes to show they make a conclusion first and then find "evidence" that leads to that conclusion. Ever read Stephen J Gould's, The Mismeasurement of Man? It explained how even science lies in order to perpetuate myths about race in history. The method has not changed because they have their conclusion first and only search for whatever to legitmize that belief.

There was a lot of negative talk about how the Chinese governemnt goes out searching for children that fit the bill for whatever sport. Well the Australian woman that won silver in diving said as a child she was identified by the Austrailian government to do diving. So it's just a case of it's okay when they do it but not okay when you do it.
 

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